Public smoking is rare

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I love pipes as well but with my TMJ that pretty much lets me out of the habit as I used to smoke one years ago and love pipe tobacco. Wish I didn't bit on the stem like I do,,wonder if there is such a thing as a bite proof rubber stem that takes the pressure off the jawline?

Why not try holding the pipe with you hand as you puff? Certainly you don't leave your cigars or cigarettes in your mouth at all times, do you? Find a nice comfy chair with arms, prop your elbow up on an arm and puff contentedly.

Might be an interesting poll to see how many pipers generally puff this way and how many clench the pipe in their teeth. I'm a clencher but that doesn't mean you or anyone else should be.

[rolokatz]

pipe get more 'respect' than cigars. there're too many stinkers out there that people have been exposed to.... and there're just jumbo versions of those heinous firesticks that are the bane of all people everywhere (or what the anti-smoking crowd would like us to believe)...

If you've got the brass and savior faire to light up a pipe, you're gonna get the respect you deserve... :-)

Way to go DonCarlos!

[WWhermit]

A couple weeks ago my wife and I were driving to work (we work together) and my wife said there was a LADY in the car next to us smoking a pipe!

I looked over, and sure enough, a lady about 40 years old was smoking a calabash. Was really neat to see.

Other than that, I've only seen other pipers while out camping for the weekend.

WWhermit

[Thillium]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I love pipes as well but with my TMJ that pretty much lets me out of the habit as I used to smoke one years ago and love pipe tobacco. Wish I didn't bit on the stem like I do,,wonder if there is such a thing as a bite proof rubber stem that takes the pressure off the jawline?

I have these little weird rubber things I put on the end of my pipe stems and I can bit as hard or as little on my pipe and cause no teeth marks! I can post pics if you would like.

[drastic_quench]

Pipe bits. They're awesome. I put them on all of my pipes. I only clench when I'm lighting or doing something like turning a page.

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by drastic_quench

Pipe bits. They're awesome. I put them on all of my pipes. I only clench when I'm lighting or doing something like turning a page.

I just got some for the first time. Normally my pipe rests in the same spot at the same angle in my teeth and fits there perfectly. However, I have one Nording freehand that for some reason would not stay in place. Every time I moved my head, it would kind of swing about. That was causing major scratches on the bit, not to mention the spilling of ash! The pipe bit solved that problem.

And they're so comfy, I think I'm going to put them on all my pipes.

[Dedalus]

I smoke in public every day. On my walk through the city streets of St. Louis as I make my way to campus, on campus, and in Forest Park, and outside Starbucks in the CWE. Most people ignore me, a few nod in what seems to be approval, the younger crowd 18-30 usually laugh at me (because I'm 27, probably). It seems to be more acceptable when I'm on campus, as if a lit instructor should be smoking a pipe, or at least has license to do so.

[dogsplayinpoker]

I smoke on the way to and from work and used to smoke in a couple bars around town. Now there is a smoking ban on the area where the bars are, so no more smoking while I enjoy coffee or beer. We are running out of places to smoke!
When I was younger I was very self-concious about smoking a pipe in public. I suppose I thought I would be made fun of. Now. at the ripe old age of 35, I don't let it bother me anymore. This is part of who I am and I'm pretty dang tired of being told what is PC and what isn't. I work too hard to do the right things in life to be told that I am horrible because I enjoy smoking.

[Cigary]

Originally Posted by dmkerr

Why not try holding the pipe with you hand as you puff? Certainly you don't leave your cigars or cigarettes in your mouth at all times, do you? Find a nice comfy chair with arms, prop your elbow up on an arm and puff contentedly.

Might be an interesting poll to see how many pipers generally puff this way and how many clench the pipe in their teeth. I'm a clencher but that doesn't mean you or anyone else should be.

I have done what you say but my inclination has always been to bite on the stem,,,one of several of my quirks.

Originally Posted by Thillium

I have these little weird rubber things I put on the end of my pipe stems and I can bit as hard or as little on my pipe and cause no teeth marks! I can post pics if you would like.

If you have pics or a place where they sell these I would appreciate as I would love to get back to pipe smoking. Or you can PM me so as not to threadjack. thx

[drastic_quench]

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[IHT]

Originally Posted by joncaputo

This is true but why do you suppose that is?

cuz of all the lilttle soccer moms and dumb@$$ media biased toward smokers (who lump cigar/pipe smoking into the same genre as cigarette smoking).

"your smoke is killing my baby!!"
whatever, lady. the ounce of horrible perfume you're wearing daily is probaby wrecking that kids brain worse than just a whiff of pipe aroma could cause over 30 yrs of exposure.

where's my link to the 2nd hand smoke study that lasted 30+ years and had over 118k test subjects??

[morefifemusicanyone]

Originally Posted by IHT

where's my link to the 2nd hand smoke study that lasted 30+ years and had over 118k test subjects??

Per your request IHT, look here.

Results For participants followed from 1960 until 1998 the age adjusted relative risk (95% confidence interval) for never smokers married to ever smokers compared with never smokers married to never smokers was 0.94 (0.85 to 1.05) for coronary heart disease, 0.75 (0.42 to 1.35) for lung cancer, and 1.27 (0.78 to 2.0 for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease among 9619 men, and 1.01 (0.94 to 1.0, 0.99 (0.72 to 1.37), and 1.13 (0.80 to 1.5, respectively, among 25 942 women. No significant associations were found for current or former exposure to environmental tobacco smoke before or after adjusting for seven confounders and before or after excluding participants with pre-existing disease. No significant associations were found during the shorter follow up periods of 1960-5, 1966-72, 1973-85, and 1973-98.


Conclusions The results do not support a causal relation between environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality, although they do not rule out a small effect. The association between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease and lung cancer may be considerably weaker than generally believed.

[uncballzer]

Originally Posted by IHT

cuz of all the lilttle soccer moms and dumb@$$ media biased toward smokers (who lump cigar/pipe smoking into the same genre as cigarette smoking).

"your smoke is killing my baby!!"
whatever, lady. the ounce of horrible perfume you're wearing daily is probaby wrecking that kids brain worse than just a whiff of pipe aroma could cause over 30 yrs of exposure.

where's my link to the 2nd hand smoke study that lasted 30+ years and had over 118k test subjects??

Or her pampering the kid too much.

Originally Posted by morefifemusicanyone

Per your request IHT, look here.

Results For participants followed from 1960 until 1998 the age adjusted relative risk (95% confidence interval) for never smokers married to ever smokers compared with never smokers married to never smokers was 0.94 (0.85 to 1.05) for coronary heart disease, 0.75 (0.42 to 1.35) for lung cancer, and 1.27 (0.78 to 2.0 for chronic obstructive pulmonary disease among 9619 men, and 1.01 (0.94 to 1.0, 0.99 (0.72 to 1.37), and 1.13 (0.80 to 1.5, respectively, among 25 942 women. No significant associations were found for current or former exposure to environmental tobacco smoke before or after adjusting for seven confounders and before or after excluding participants with pre-existing disease. No significant associations were found during the shorter follow up periods of 1960-5, 1966-72, 1973-85, and 1973-98.


Conclusions The results do not support a causal relation between environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality, although they do not rule out a small effect. The association between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease and lung cancer may be considerably weaker than generally believed.

RG for you!

[morefifemusicanyone]

Originally Posted by uncballzer

RG for you!

Cheers! I actually started looking because I thought IHT was being sarcastic and I was looking for a study that showed harmful effects as a sort of joke to him.

When I found the study he was describing, I nearly laughed out loud!

-Tyler

[IHT]

Originally Posted by morefifemusicanyone

Cheers! I actually started looking because I thought IHT was being sarcastic and I was looking for a study that showed harmful effects as a sort of joke to him.

When I found the study he was describing, I nearly laughed out loud!

-Tyler

oh, you thought i was making stuff up.

i love how it says that ppl exposed to 30+ years of 2nd hand smoke, they can't conclude that it was the smoke that might have slightly raised their chances of those diseases.

i read a book that stated somewhere the C. Everett Koop lied to the EPA about the effects of 2nd hand smoke, then had to recant his testimony. or was it he testified to congress, and the EPA also lied with him??

either way, if 2nd hand smoke from nasty ass cigarettes can't be found to produce diseases IN CALIFORNIA over nearly 40 years time, how could 2nd hand smoke from cigars/pipes even come close??

i was thinking about this after i posted. what other environmental issues do these ppl have going on? what if someone lives up north and runs their fireplace all year long for 20 years, and happens to smoke 4 bowls a week... was it the pipe tobacco that he didn't inhale, or was it all that firewood in his lungs?
what about a chef, slaving over a stove full of burning smells... and when they clean the grills with those abrasives... is it his environment or that his wife smokes 2 packs a day (of which he's only around her for 6 or 7 cigarrettes/day).

i'm not denying that actual SMOKING of cigars and pipes (and definitely cigarrettes) don't raise our own chances of certain types of cancers (which there's a study out for that as well), but THAT CHOICE IS OURS TO MAKE.