Public smoking is rare

[hagen]

Originally Posted by IHT

either way, if 2nd hand smoke from nasty ass cigarettes can't be found to produce diseases IN CALIFORNIA over nearly 40 years time, how could 2nd hand smoke from cigars/pipes even come close??

concerns about second hand smoke are not only about mortal diseases of the heart or lungs, but, i believe, very much about general life quality as it can be measured in how often you (and in particular your kids) are sick and with which kind of ills. for instance, as far as i know the risk of middle ear infections doubles for children who've been exposed to massive second hand smoke. the same goes for allergies, pneumonia etc.

i know, there was this study suggesting that actually you run a lower risk of lung cancer if your parents smoked. there may be more to these things than what the mass media tell us.

i was thinking about this after i posted. what other environmental issues do these ppl have going on? what if someone lives up north and runs their fireplace all year long for 20 years, and happens to smoke 4 bowls a week... was it the pipe tobacco that he didn't inhale, or was it all that firewood in his lungs?
what about a chef, slaving over a stove full of burning smells... and when they clean the grills with those abrasives... is it his environment or that his wife smokes 2 packs a day (of which he's only around her for 6 or 7 cigarrettes/day).

that's why such studies have to be so large. i believe that the largest studies should be able to take such things into account.

[IHT]

Originally Posted by hagen

concerns about second hand smoke are not only about mortal diseases of the heart or lungs, but, i believe, very much about general life quality as it can be measured in how often you (and in particular your kids) are sick and with which kind of ills. for instance, as far as i know the risk of middle ear infections doubles for children who've been exposed to massive second hand smoke. the same goes for allergies, pneumonia etc.

that's odd. both my parents smoked 3 packs a day for 30 years. i don't seem to have had any of these issues. of course, i'm just 1 guy.

watch 'em finally come out and say it, after smoking is illegal, that they've found out that it was actually lifestyle that caused these issues - eating habits and lack of excercise, not smoking or 2nd hand smoke.

[hagen]

Originally Posted by IHT

that's odd. both my parents smoked 3 packs a day for 30 years. i don't seem to have had any of these issues. of course, i'm just 1 guy.

ahem

watch 'em finally come out and say it, after smoking is illegal, that they've found out that it was actually lifestyle that caused these issues - eating habits and lack of excercise, not smoking or 2nd hand smoke.

with the risk of the mentioned issues being doubled, i think we're very far away from the dubious statistics concerning the risks of heart failure or cancer of the lungs. but of course, you might be right, and i admit that i haven't taken a closer look at any relevant studies...

[Mad Hatter]

From my own family's experience with second hand smoke, and I come from a long line of smokers, the only people who didn't die in their 70s, 80s, or 90s could blame it on hard living (alcoholism and all the things that come with it).

[ghe]

The New York Times ran a story Jan. 26 (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/he...%20baby&st=cse) that I’m astounded did not get more play. It reported that studies of children born to crack mothers found that “the long-term effects of such exposure on children’s brain development and behavior appear relatively small.” Analysis of a number of large, long-term studies on the children “failed to show a statistically significant effect on I.Q. or language development.” Remember, taking crack while pregnant is considered so dangerous that women have been jailed for doing it. I think this should exhibit No. 1 when it comes to reaching to conclusions based on what just seems like it’s got to be true.

[andrew]

I happened upon a Captain smoking a stanwell, in the MP unit we were drilling with last month. Some cheap aro, but thats okay, still cool to see.

[Ender03]

i've actually taken to packing my pipe with me at work. a noce break every once in a while

[IHT]

Originally Posted by andrew

I happened upon a Captain smoking a stanwell, in the MP unit we were drilling with last month. Some cheap aro, but thats okay, still cool to see.

yep, i ran into a Major while in NC a few months back, smoking a Peterson system pipe with an aromatic in it, cuz "he's a wet smoker"??
i don't quite get that term, "HE's a wet smoker"??

anyway, we were outside doing a combined arms rehearsal, saw him sitting there, puffing away (smelled him before i saw him), so i had to go chit-chat.

[morefifemusicanyone]

Originally Posted by IHT

i don't quite get that term, "HE's a wet smoker"??

Maybe he was a SEAL?

[Thisisme]

Originally Posted by morefifemusicanyone

Maybe he was a SEAL?

[IHT]

lol, i think he told me later on that he drooled into his pipe...

[Arizona]

Yes it is rare to see a pipe smoker out and about in public these days and that's sad. I'll smoke my pipe when I go places, but it's more difficult cuz nearly anyplace you can't smoke INDOORS, so the pipe has to stay in the truck when I get to the store.

The steady infiltration of Communism (control freaks they are, one and all) is to blame gentlemen... It will only get worse now that the whacko libs are in power here in the US. In fact they just signed a bill this week to jack up the taxes on tobacco to pay for their socialist childrens medical coverage scheme.

[Dzrtrat]

I smoke in public, I smoke while I work........as far as whats "healthy" or not I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what you do someone somewhere will do a study and find a problem with it..I say do what you want and accept the consequences....

Or live like this.

[karmaz00]

deffintley dont see that around here...people give you the frowns

[Requiem]

Last night I found a pub, really close to my home, where the owner is a pipe smoker, as well as 2 or 3 other regular customers, according to him. He was smoking some Borkum Riff Vanilla in a little Pete poker. I offered him some FVF I had with me and today I went for a coffee there and gave him a pouch of Amphora Red that I didn´t care for.
I'll become a regular there, for sure.