Dunhill "stamping" guide??

[Hendu3270]

ill post a pic when i get back to work on tuesday. (posting from my phone right now). i forgot to take a pic of the "before" but i did take couple of the after. i noticed no difference when i used the magic eraser on a dr. grabow recently. this dunhill stem is a cumberland so its the brown black striped style. i went ahead and washed the stem which totally oxidized all of it. it was so hazy yellowy that you couldnt even see that it was two-tone. i rubbed it down with 91% alcohol and then went to work with the eraser for about 20 minutes. dried it off and massaged a little olive oil on it and it looks perfect! im so glad i didnt do the sand paper thing. thanks guys.

[Hendu3270]

Here's a quick pic of the pipe. I worked and scrubbing out the charring marks on the rim some on Friday but still haven't removed them all. Not sure if there is something that dissolves the charred areas in the lower areas of the wood but if anyone knows, please inform me.

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by Hendu3270

Here's a quick pic of the pipe. I worked and scrubbing out the charring marks on the rim some on Friday but still haven't removed them all. Not sure if there is something that dissolves the charred areas in the lower areas of the wood but if anyone knows, please inform me.

Sweet pipe!

I haven't found anything to remove an actual burn on the pipe.

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by dmkerr

Sweet pipe!

I haven't found anything to remove an actual burn on the pipe.

Thanks!

[NeverBend]

Hi Chris,

Sorry to weigh in on this so long after you posted but I just arrived the other day.

Don't mess with the burn - nothing that you can do.

The best man I know of for dating Dunhills is R.D. Field out of Philadelphia. I believe that he imports Radice and Ashton pipes (he used to).

The stem oxidation will likely return unless you remove all the oxidized material. You'll be at it a long time with 800 grit.

The same Mr. Field might (if you find him and he's willing to assist you) be able to give you some pointers in restoration and how to preserve value. If you speak to him please send him my regards (Pete Siegel).

Best of luck,

Pete

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hi Chris,

Sorry to weigh in on this so long after you posted but I just arrived the other day.

Don't mess with the burn - nothing that you can do.

The best man I know of for dating Dunhills is R.D. Field out of Philadelphia. I believe that he imports Radice and Ashton pipes (he used to).

The stem oxidation will likely return unless you remove all the oxidized material. You'll be at it a long time with 800 grit.

The same Mr. Field might (if you find him and he's willing to assist you) be able to give you some pointers in restoration and how to preserve value. If you speak to him please send him my regards (Pete Siegel).

Best of luck,

Pete

Pete,

Weren't you involved in the Elephant & Castle tobaccos? If memory serves, you were one of the Siegel brothers that made up Marble Arch. On the other hand, I'm getting old! But it seems to me I met you at one of the shows in the early 1990's, the same year I met Edsel James, who I find is the best Dunhill guy! If he's still alive, that is.

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hi Chris,

Sorry to weigh in on this so long after you posted but I just arrived the other day.

Don't mess with the burn - nothing that you can do.

The best man I know of for dating Dunhills is R.D. Field out of Philadelphia. I believe that he imports Radice and Ashton pipes (he used to).

The stem oxidation will likely return unless you remove all the oxidized material. You'll be at it a long time with 800 grit.

The same Mr. Field might (if you find him and he's willing to assist you) be able to give you some pointers in restoration and how to preserve value. If you speak to him please send him my regards (Pete Siegel).

Best of luck,

Pete

Thanks for the info Pete. I have a photo of the stamping (shown below) sent to a guy that is referenced on the Dunhill Pipedia site. From what I've read the 24 and the 6106 are explained. I just can't help but think the "121" is a serial number for a series or something

[IHT]

Originally Posted by Hendu3270

From what I've read the 24 and the 6106 are explained. I just can't help but think the "121" is a serial number for a series or something

the 24 is year in code it was made (94, as you know).
6106 is the shape

1st digit - denotes the size of the pipe - 1 through 6
2nd digit - denotes the style of the mouthpiece (0,1=tapered, 2=saddle)
3rd and 4th digits - denote the generic pipe shape
e.g. 6106 (6 = size 1 = style of mouthpiece 06 = Pot)

i'm trying to find out the 121 as well. got me interested.

re-edit: i wonder if the "121" is the number of a special edition pipe?
in your previous thread about a Christmas pipe from '84 (that looked like this one), got me to thinking. if they only make 300 Christmas pipes, you'd think they'd # them somewhere/somehow.

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by IHT

the 24 is year in code it was made (94, as you know).
6106 is the shape


i'm trying to find out the 121 as well. got me interested.

Actually the 24 being the year 1994 was an assumption from an earlier post in this thread. What I have read in the dating material is that 18 is 1978, 19 is 1979, 20 is 1980, 21 is 1981, 22 is 1982, etc. and these can be plain or underlined. If you were to continue with the date codes in this manner, the 90's would be the 30's. So I'm thinking the 24 could be 1984. The material didn't specifically state for certain that "underlined" numbers represent the 90's. Of course I'm definitely not an expert.

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by IHT

re-edit: i wonder if the "121" is the number of a special edition pipe?
in your previous thread about a Christmas pipe from '84 (that looked like this one), got me to thinking. if they only make 300 Christmas pipes, you'd think they'd # them somewhere/somehow.

Exactly what I'm wondering about. In the Christmas pipes in the 90's and now, they state 121 of 500 or 121 of 350, etc. But I don't know what they did in the 80's.??....

[IHT]

true, true...

here's a couple llinks to look at.
PipeSMOKE 12/97 - Collecting Christmas Pipes (pg.2)
oddly enough, the photo you posted in that previous discussion about hunting for a shape came from this linked page.
Dunhill Christmas

[IHT]

i called LJ Peretti's, the last link in my previous post, the ones who took those photos...
seems i got the 1 guy that knows nothing, told me to call back tomorrow afternoon and talk to "Steve", and that he'd know.

y'know what... i think you're right in that it's an '84... i also think it's one of their Christmas pipes.
check out the '89 xmas pipe on smokingpipes.com English Estate Dunhill Cumberland 1989 Christmas Pipe (49/350) (with box) (5101) Pipes at Smoking Pipes .com
Stamping:
5101
49 OF 350
DUNHILL CUMBERLAND
MADE IN ENGLAND 29 [ 29 is underlined]

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by IHT

i called LJ Peretti's, the last link in my previous post, the ones who took those photos...
seems i got the 1 guy that knows nothing, told me to call back tomorrow afternoon and talk to "Steve", and that he'd know.

y'know what... i think you're right in that it's an '84... i also think it's one of their Christmas pipes.
check out the '89 xmas pipe on smokingpipes.com English Estate Dunhill Cumberland 1989 Christmas Pipe (49/350) (with box) (5101) Pipes at Smoking Pipes .com
Stamping:
5101
49 OF 350
DUNHILL CUMBERLAND
MADE IN ENGLAND 29 [ 29 is underlined]

The one thing about that pipe that makes me think this is NOT a Christmas Pipe is they sya it's stamped "49 of 350". Hmm, interesting mystery we have going here.

[Hendu3270]

Originally Posted by IHT

oddly enough, the photo you posted in that previous discussion about hunting for a shape came from this linked page.
Dunhill Christmas

That's the exact site I posted the original pic from. I also emailed the guy asking if he could ask his customer exactly what the pipe is stamped with, but I never heard back.

[IHT]

maybe they didn't actually have "49 of 350" on there and just a 49? it could've changed from year to year... too bad we don't see the stamping of the one on smokingpipes.

the # to LJ Peretti's is in that link if you wanted to call "Steve" tomorrow afternoon. i'm obviously curious to know if you found a steal or not. that's a really cool shape, i'm a fan of "pots" and cumberland stems, never saw one shaped like that before.