Dunhill "stamping" guide??

[NeverBend]

Originally Posted by dmkerr

Pete,

Weren't you involved in the Elephant & Castle tobaccos? If memory serves, you were one of the Siegel brothers that made up Marble Arch. On the other hand, I'm getting old! But it seems to me I met you at one of the shows in the early 1990's, the same year I met Edsel James, who I find is the best Dunhill guy! If he's still alive, that is.

Hi DMKerr,

Nice to 're-meet' you.

I certainly hope that Edsel is still with us, nice man. He had a lot of Dunhills (esp used) in his Murfreesboro, TN store as I recall (was only there once). I'm sure that he could date this pipe. Saw the pic (below) and it's a Cumberland.

Funny that you mention E&C because I hadn't seen the page about them that my brother wrote until the other day. He's a good writer but other than discussing my ideas with him he had little to do with the creation of the blends that I made with Ken McConnell. His write-up of the blends is often inaccurate about the tobaccos themselves.

I still have a few tins and should smoke them soon. Nice that you remembered them (E&C) and perhaps someday I'll set the record straight on their origins.

Regards,

Pete

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hi DMKerr,

Nice to 're-meet' you.

I certainly hope that Edsel is still with us, nice man. He had a lot of Dunhills (esp used) in his Murfreesboro, TN store as I recall (was only there once). I'm sure that he could date this pipe. Saw the pic (below) and it's a Cumberland.

Funny that you mention E&C because I hadn't seen the page about them that my brother wrote until the other day. He's a good writer but other than discussing my ideas with him he had little to do with the creation of the blends that I made with Ken McConnell. His write-up of the blends is often inaccurate about the tobaccos themselves.

I still have a few tins and should smoke them soon. Nice that you remembered them (E&C) and perhaps someday I'll set the record straight on their origins.

Regards,

Pete

Yikes! I didn't mean to stir anything up!

I was never at Edsel's store but I did meet him several times at various shows. One thing he used to say that I've never forgotten is that he showed his disdain for freehand pipes by saying they looked like human organs.

He was quite a salesman. Really nice guy. Anyway, you gave me a tin of one of the E&C blends (the purple tin but I don't recall the name) and I had half a tin of New World in my backpack. The nice thing about memories is they're fun; the tough thing about 'em is they're SO fleeting!!!!

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Originally Posted by Hendu3270

Thanks for the info Pete. I have a photo of the stamping (shown below) sent to a guy that is referenced on the Dunhill Pipedia site. From what I've read the 24 and the 6106 are explained. I just can't help but think the "121" is a serial number for a series or something

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the photo.

Definitely 1984

6106 shape and 121 probably a count (certain number made).

I probably wouldn't know of the guy on Dunhil Pipedia unless he's been around a while.

Regards,

Pete

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Originally Posted by dmkerr

Yikes! I didn't mean to stir anything up!

I was never at Edsel's store but I did meet him several times at various shows. One thing he used to say that I've never forgotten is that he showed his disdain for freehand pipes by saying they looked like human organs.

He was quite a salesman. Really nice guy. Anyway, you gave me a tin of one of the E&C blends (the purple tin but I don't recall the name) and I had half a tin of New World in my backpack. The nice thing about memories is they're fun; the tough thing about 'em is they're SO fleeting!!!!

Hi DMKerr,

You didn't stir anything up. It's just revisionist history and I like to be as accurate as I can while I still have my wits.

The Stout (dark purple). I must have liked you because there was no more coming by that time and I adored The Stout.

I once said to Mark Tinsky (American Smoking Pipe):

If you took 1000 monkeys and gave them sanding wheels and briar you'd end up with a lot of freehands and no billiards.

Regards,

Pete

[dmkerr]

Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hi DMKerr,

You didn't stir anything up. It's just revisionist history and I like to be as accurate as I can while I still have my wits.

The Stout (dark purple). I must have liked you because there was no more coming by that time and I adored The Stout.

I once said to Mark Tinsky (American Smoking Pipe):

If you took 1000 monkeys and gave them sanding wheels and briar you'd end up with a lot of freehands and no billiards.

Regards,

Pete

Well, I may have been messed up on my years but it was sometime between about 1988 and 1992. But hey, I'm glad you liked me enough to give me The Stout! I do recall that I could never order any through the shop I worked at, but we ordered from the other (sister shop, same owner) shop and for all I know the owner scarfed it all up himself! It was quite nice tobacco. As I recall, I enjoyed it more than New World. So thanks!

As for the monkeys, that's true... but then again, you'd have pipemaking monkeys!

[NeverBend]

Originally Posted by dmkerr

...I'm glad you liked me enough to give me The Stout! ...It was quite nice tobacco. As I recall, I enjoyed it more than New World. So thanks!

As for the monkeys, that's true... but then again, you'd have pipemaking monkeys!

Hi DMKerr,

Trained monkeys are a valuable commodity!

The story of Cromwell on the E&C site is accurate and although the tobacco is supposed to be the same as Davidoff's Royalty it's not.

McConnell added dark Carolina leaf to make it different from Royalty and the result was a richer, less dry but sweeter smoke that was less distinctly Latakia. I don't know that I ever told my brother that it wasn't the same but it was clear when you smoked them.

Royalty was a classic, medium bodied English mixture (20% Latakia) and I surprised McConnell when I wanted to add 20% more (thus 40% of 120% or 1/3) Latakia and the result was The Stout. This was possible because the Latakia stock that McConnell used wasn't the processed, tar added stuff that the American bulk suppliers had.

The Stout needed some aging but I feel that it was a great blend. Glad that you liked it.

Old World was something of an acquired taste because it was light in Virginia and Latakia so that these flavors didn't overpower the Cuban cigar leaf.

Regards,

Pete

[MarkC]

Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hi DMKerr,

Trained monkeys are a valuable commodity!

Yes, but you need at least two. Invariably, if you have one, he insists on grabbing an old typewriter and pounding out Shakespeare...

[NeverBend]

Originally Posted by MarkC

Yes, but you need at least two. Invariably, if you have one, he insists on grabbing an old typewriter and pounding out Shakespeare...

Hi Mark,



My dad would have loved that (English Professor).

I fit in the monkey category because I never made a billiard (I tried).

Regards,

Pete