Holt's Catalog- Copy

[Ernesto]

THE COPY BELOW IS FROM THE UP-COMING HOLT'S FATHER'S DAY- CIGAR CATALOG

At one point in time, Ernesto Padilla was looked upon as a rising star in the cigar world. He was young and hungry, and he had a couple of lights-out, cutting edge cigars being manufactured by another rising star: Pepin Garcia. He also had a nice cigar being made in the Oliva factory. He received glowing ratings, lots of publicity, and all seemed to be going well for him. That was a couple years ago. Nowadays, the tide has taken an unfortunate turn for Padilla. Neither Pepin nor Oliva are making cigars for him anymore. We think this means one thing and one thing only: Padilla is on his way out... We have nothing against Padilla personally. In fact, we consider him to be a friend of ours. We simply do not want to get caught sitting on a ton of discontinued, sedentary, totally immobile inventory.

Therefore, we're cutting prices on all Padilla products bigtime! We're slashing prices on Padilla left and right, and blowing this stuff out from not 'till it's gone! Join in on the fun that is "Padilla Madness" and procure yourself some Padilla cigars today. Hey Ernie P., we've got one word for you and one word only: Buh-Bye.



From Padilla Cigars:
Cigar-Live Members,

I was alerted to the recent Holt's catalog and wanted to reply.

First, I want to thank everyone for their input on this thread.
Itís nice to see that most people can see beyond whatís written in a
cigar catalog. It is unfortunate that in their attempt to close out our
product that they had to write such incorrect and inflammatory copy.
While everyone is entitled to their opinions, there are many factual
inaccuracies in that copy that I would address.

As you all know, Pepin, Ashton and Holtís have become very close in
recent months. Because of their growing relationship, Padilla Cigars
knew that eventually we would have difficulty securing the cigars we
needed to grow as a company. We also knew that in order for us to take
the next step as a cigar company, we would have to manufacturer our own
cigars. That is why Pepin and Padilla mutually agreed to part ways.
This split has given us the opportunity to build our own factory so we
can better control both our blends and our inventory. Leaving the
Pepin factory was difficult, but as you will see, we believe this move
will result in better blends and better cigars. And you have my promise
that Padilla's existing blends will retain both the quality and the
flavor you have come to expect from us.

In the coming months, once the factory is complete, you will see
Padilla Cigars in the marketplace stronger than ever. We will have more
inventory than ever and will continue to create the best boutique blends
on the market. Despite what Holt's might think, we are definitely
NOT on our way out.

Also incorrect is their description of our relationship with Oliva
Cigars. I continue to have a wonderful and productive relationship with
Jose Oliva and his family continues to have an impact on Padilla
Cigars. The Habano blend is still the product of our relationship with the
family.

We are working with the Oliva family to formally address this issue
with Holt's. We don't know how this will resolve itself, but as was
stated in this thread earlier, take everything you read with a grain of
salt.

The reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated.

Ernesto Padilla
Padilla cigars

[baboruger]

Well, I say I never believe what those catalogs say anyway! I just tried the 1968 and it was a fantastic cigar! I cannot wait to see what is to come from your company.

[Stogie]

I would say it is going to be stronger than ever. I recently spoke with Ernesto and we agreed upon me creating a new forum specifically for his cigars. As most know the creation of NUbLive.com was the first attempt to do this and it has worked wonderfully for Sam Leccia.

PadillaLive.com will be one of the next two forums that will follow the same format and rules as CigarLive.com and NUbLive.com. Ernesto will then be able to promote PadillaLive.com at his events and also we at CigarLive.com will gain members from PadillaLive.com as well. It works great and expands the CigarLive.com network. I will launch it as soon as I can and get some videos up as well.

[iloveclmore]

Eh, I never believe anything that those catalogs print anyway. Its usually just marketing bullshit.

[corbu12]

way to take the high road!

[vudu9]

Bad form - plain and simple. OF COURSE they intended to print it because they meant EVERY WORD of it! The apology by Sathya rings hollow in my opinion. They don't regret letting it go to print. They regret the volume of outcry and negative attention it's brought to Holt's and, Ashton proper.

[GreySmoke]

I look forward to your new factory and new blends. Personally I think Pepin's quality controll needs some looking after anyway. I enjoy your entire lline from the Habano's through the 32,48,68's and 8&11's.
As for you being on the way out, I am estatic to hear it taint so... Thanks for so many enjoyable smokes.

[g8trbone]

Wow... I'm glad I don't get their catalog... that is just rude!

Thank you again, Ernesto for being part of CigarLive and I wish you continued success... I really need to get across the state to say hello!

[ER Doc]

We have nothing against Padilla personally. In fact, we consider him to be a friend of ours.

Wow - glad I don't have any friends like that.

I am very glad to have you here with CigarLive and look forward to the new stuff planned to come out of the new factory.

[boomerd35]

I would have believed that copy as much as I believe catalog stories that begin with something like: "I was touring XX factory, and Mr. XX said, 'I've got too much of this XXY on my hands.' I told him if he was willing to make a deal, I'd buy the entire lot. So I made the deal of a lifetime, and now I'm able to sell XXY direct to you at an unheard of savings."

[Stogie]

Originally Posted by boomerd35

I would have believed that copy as much as I believe catalog stories that begin with something like: "I was touring XX factory, and Mr. XX said, 'I've got too much of this XXY on my hands.' I told him if he was willing to make a deal, I'd buy the entire lot. So I made the deal of a lifetime, and now I'm able to sell XXY direct to you at an unheard of savings."

Haha Good point!

[Toasted Coastie]

I haven't received my catalog yet, but the website has this:

Padilla Madness

Discontinued brands, blowout prices!

Unfortunately, Ernesto Padilla is no longer having cigars manufactured by Pepin Garcia or the Oliva family. We have always been big Padilla supporters, so when we found out that the Padilla Miami, Padilla Signature and Padilla Habano were all being discontinued we became very dismayed. We are sitting on a large inventory of these 3 brands and now that they've been discontinued, we are left with no other option then closing them out ourselves. So, get in on Padilla Madness and procure yourself some Padilla cigars today at these basement prices. These gems are manufactured by esteemed cigar makers, Pepin Garcia and Oliva, so you know the quality is top-notch.

[JonDot]

I have never ordered from Holt's.If this is the way they conduct business,I never will.

[jitzy]

Originally Posted by boomerd35

I would have believed that copy as much as I believe catalog stories that begin with something like: "I was touring XX factory, and Mr. XX said, 'I've got too much of this XXY on my hands.' I told him if he was willing to make a deal, I'd buy the entire lot. So I made the deal of a lifetime, and now I'm able to sell XXY direct to you at an unheard of savings."

very good point and one I whole heartedly agree with the only thing is this one that there pulling with padillia is a little different there atacking him personally the end comment of "one word for you buh bye" makes Ernesto apear to be a hard person to deal with. what holts did here is simply inexcuseable and flat out poor business I will not order from them again.

[Rocky Rulz]

Just one more bad reason not to order from thompson's. Let them secure all the dogturds they can find, and let the premium stuff like Padilla to the people who truly appreciate it! DUMBASSES!