Washington tobacco law for online purchase

[SidRox7]

Can I trade tobacco's with others online and receive and ship them since I am not paying for them? I just can't buy them online now through web sites
I need more info on this law.

[Hermit]

As I understand the new law,
(just from what I've read on the forums)
that would be a felony.
Is that stupid or what?

[commonsenseman]

Originally Posted by Hermit

As I understand the new law,
(just from what I've read on the forums)
that would be a felony.
Is that stupid or what?

Wow that is stupid, what the hell is the reason for that?

[jackolantern]

because then big brother won't get his protection money. Thats definately a crime

[zeavran1]

Not able to buy online? Can that be true? I still get all kinds of emails for tobacco sales.

[SidRox7]

So if someone randomly sent me tobacco in the mail which one of us is the felon!?!?!?!?

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by SidRox7

So if someone randomly sent me tobacco in the mail which one of us is the felon!?!?!?!?

Both of you.

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by zeavran1

Not able to buy online? Can that be true? I still get all kinds of emails for tobacco sales.

Well, you don't live in Washington.
Don't worry, New York won't be far behind.

[MarkC]

Wait a minute...how the heck can a state decide what goes through federal mails? This so obviously steps on the interstate commerce clause that there must be a horde of lawyers out there salivating over getting the first case on this one!*





*Then again, I'm not a legally trained individual; I just play one on the internet...

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by MarkC

Wait a minute...how the heck can a state decide what goes through federal mails? This so obviously steps on the interstate commerce clause that there must be a horde of lawyers out there salivating over getting the first case on this one!*





*Then again, I'm not a legally trained individual; I just play one on the internet...

I hope it's sooner, rather than later,
before other states adopt this stupidity.

[tobacmon]

Originally Posted by SidRox7

Can I trade tobacco's with others online and receive and ship them since I am not paying for them? I just can't buy them online now through web sites
I need more info on this law.

Who says it has to be known as a trade---I'd say it was a gift---settles that!

Is there any laws about receiving gifts from friends, family etc.?

[Hermit]

Originally Posted by tobacmon

Who says it has to be known as a trade---I'd say it was a gift---settles that!

Is there any laws about receiving gifts from friends, family etc.?

I don't think it matters.
Sending/receiving tobacco is a crime.

[dmkerr]

I am not typically a doomsayer by nature. That said, over the past year, I've been slowly and systematically building up my cellar stock of pipe tobacco in anticipation of tobacco becoming illegal in all forms... illegal to produce, sell, buy or own. I actually have a cellar with a hidden door where I will repair for a bowl when the mood seizes me. Ok, that part, while true, was incidental with my new house - I didn't create the hidden door. But it's WAY cool!

Tobacco is EVIL, my friends! If you produce, sell, buy or otherwise acquire tobacco, YOU ARE A CRIMINAL!!!!

Ridiculous? Ahhh... I don't think anyone thinks so anymore!

[MarkC]

I don't know if it will go that far, but even if it doesn't, I can see the taxes on tobacco shooting an average tin price up to an unbearable level, so I'm trying to "lay in supplies" as well. I feel like a loon preparing for the apocolypse sometimes, but heck, even if I'm wrong, it's not a bad investment. I just have to remember to stop before I have enough tobacco to last me until I'm 150...

[RJpuffs]

It is probably more of an incentive (or lack thereof) to online retailers - to NOT ship to WA State due to criminal liability. The State has no authority to seize Federal Mail (unless they have warrants and all the nice stuff), and since wire/mail fraud falls under the Feds purview, unless the State can present a strong case they will likely not be opening packages.

Its simply a tax collectors wet dream. What next, abolishing Amazon.com purchases so local sales tax gets paid? Or tax the air we breathe? Can you imagine bootleg air canisters being shipped from out of state?