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Hairstyles in the Air Force

This is a discussion on Hairstyles in the Air Force within the Puff Banter forums, part of the Everything But Cigars category; As the current regulation stands, women are not allowed to have shaven heads, flat tops, nor crew cuts. If (when) ...

  
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    Misplaced boonedoggle's Avatar


     

    Hairstyles in the Air Force

    As the current regulation stands, women are not allowed to have shaven heads, flat tops, nor crew cuts. If (when) Pres. Obama allows gays to "come out" in the military, do you suppose this will change?
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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    I'm not sure it will matter, Jimmy, and think that it may be possible that the population in that profession will be forced to dwindle, whether it is proportionate or not, is debatable. It may be a crapshoot to see what Mr. Obama does.
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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Quote Originally Posted by replicant_argent View Post
    I'm not sure it will matter, Jimmy, and think that it may be possible that the population in that profession will be forced to dwindle, whether it is proportionate or not, is debatable. It may be a crapshoot to see what Mr. Obama does.

    Yeah, we'll have to see how these next few years go.
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    I see what you're doing!! Architeuthis's Avatar


     

    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Squid® feels that the Liberace Pompadour will probably become the required haircut for both sexes in the Air Force...

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    Young Puffer Fish michael88n's Avatar


     

    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Dang. I wish I had enough hair to do that...

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    Alpha Puffer Fish


     

    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    My initial reaction is "Hell, no!" But the more I think about it....not sure.

    Do you think the 36-2903 stipulates "do not" due to those hairstyles being perceived as gay/lesbian? If that were the case and the time comes where people were able to "tell", it would just take one rebel to start a chain reaction .

    A female friend/co-worker got braids in her hair, no biggie. Well, the next day she was flying and the braids had changed the shape of her head so much the the helmet didn't fit. It was hilarious! Partly due to the fact she went to the latrine and took out all the braids in order for her helmet to fit - wasted money! And had one mean fro for a bit.
    Soccer players do it for 90 minutes.

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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    After serving in the USAF I saw first hand how women wanted to be "equal" to the men. They wanted to be treated the same, they wanted the same duties/tasks......so I said then and Ill say it now....lets treat them the same. In basic training everybody gets a "day 1" haircut (thats shaved to the skin for you non military people) no exceptions! When they are finally out of basic and considered active duty lets not give them a year off work because they decided to get pregnant! You signed a contract saying you would serve your country....kinda hard to do that when your at home feeding your baby while the rest of your squadron is deployed! Kids should be put on hold till your military career is over. Sorry if this offends anyone but its a sore subject for me and many others who have had to pick up the slack for pregnant airmen. Ive actually known women who joined the military for that reason.......you get paid to have kids! Easy way to start a family. Steady pay, health insurance. Sorry Sorry bad memories.
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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Quote Originally Posted by slyder View Post
    After serving in the USAF I saw first hand how women wanted to be "equal" to the men. They wanted to be treated the same, they wanted the same duties/tasks......so I said then and Ill say it now....lets treat them the same. In basic training everybody gets a "day 1" haircut (thats shaved to the skin for you non military people) no exceptions! When they are finally out of basic and considered active duty lets not give them a year off work because they decided to get pregnant! You signed a contract saying you would serve your country....kinda hard to do that when your at home feeding your baby while the rest of your squadron is deployed! Kids should be put on hold till your military career is over. Sorry if this offends anyone but its a sore subject for me and many others who have had to pick up the slack for pregnant airmen. Ive actually known women who joined the military for that reason.......you get paid to have kids! Easy way to start a family. Steady pay, health insurance. Sorry Sorry bad memories.
    As a retired Army guy, I will continue that thought--

    I worked many years on 3-person comms teams. Inevitably when it was time to go to the field many of the female soldiers had "female problems (medical)" that excused them from field duty. That really screws over the two people who are left on the team. You aren't really loosing 1/3 of your "manpower" though, since the female on the team never did their share of the work anyway. No wonder I never saw a team with more than one female on it.

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    Luckily at my current unit, we do not seem to have that issue. The famales deploy as much as the males, in fact one of the females on my crew set to leave in April was told today she could not go. She is doing everything possible to get that turned around.

    However, at one of my previous units (right after 9/11) we were told we were leaving in two weeks. 7 out of the 9 females went to the doc and put themseves on a medication that prohibited them from flying for a one year observation period. Well, we can only do our job while flying so they stayed back. That made life very rough for us that left.
    Soccer players do it for 90 minutes.

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    I am my brothers keeper! slyder's Avatar


     

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    I was an Armament Systems Specialist (bomb loader) on F-4Gs, A-10s and F-15Es. We had 3 man load crews. When one person wasnt there that meant the other 2 got stuck doing crap details because its impossible to do your job without the third peson. Our squadron didnt have any extra bodies to fill the position either. So when a female got pregnant that meant the other 2 people on her crew did crap jobs for over a year! Needless to say tensions were way high cause id say 65% of our crews had one female on them and all but 3 or 4 were married with kids and that usually meant more kids on the way. Especially after a deployment!!! People have a bad tendency to get pregnant after a one year deployment.
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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Quote Originally Posted by boonedoggle View Post
    As the current regulation stands, women are not allowed to have shaven heads, flat tops, nor crew cuts. If (when) Pres. Obama allows gays to "come out" in the military, do you suppose this will change?
    I'm not sure I want to see women with a flat top, even if its the giant runway style one kurt russel had in stargate.

    David

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    Well, I don't mind letting it grow. Just to be said, my hair really curls fast! do you have dreadlocks, or cornrows? the small rows are authorized, and if you like the style of dreadlocks my suggestion is get your hair redone into small rows, which can be tied up in a bun and still be within regulation.


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    Puffer Fish with some spikes carguy13's Avatar


     

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    well since, the AFI doesn't allow for faddish haircuts the "butch" hair cut would not be allowed...

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    This is an interesting topic. A few weeks ago in the news a Muslim Army Capt fought and won the right to have 'relaxed' grooming standards, meaning he can grow his beard because of religious customs. I can see how that same thinking could be used to allow a homosexual style haircut. What is this military coming too...10 more years and I'm out.


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    Re: Hairstyles in the Air Force

    Quote Originally Posted by Yosysfire View Post
    I can see how that same thinking could be used to allow a homosexual style haircut.
    Quote Originally Posted by carguy13 View Post
    well since, the AFI doesn't allow for faddish haircuts the "butch" hair cut would not be allowed...
    I don't usually delve into this kind of conversation, but...

    I think that defining "trendish" and "homosexual" hairstyles a defeating the purpose of the haircuts altogether. The purpose of the haircuts (from what I have learned/inferred) are to define uniformity among troops, and to denote that no one is "different". All soliders are simply soldiers. Color, gender, sexual preference, religion, etc should not be a determining factor in the military. They are all as one.

    Quote Originally Posted by slyder View Post
    After serving in the USAF I saw first hand how women wanted to be "equal" to the men. They wanted to be treated the same, they wanted the same duties/tasks......so I said then and Ill say it now....lets treat them the same.
    I agree completely. Shaved heads, beards, mustaches, etc for everyone. Equality should be blind to sex and religious creed.

    Just my $0.02 on the subject.

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