NFL coaches

[SilvrBck]

Ok, so, you have 60 amped up, testosterone laden, man-child freaks on an NFL football team. How much blame is there on a coaching staff when they lose? My Chargers are sucking balls right now and everyone is pointing fingers at the coaches. They're the same players. Their playbook is 80% the same as when Norv helped install it in the beginning. Did they wake up one day and forget how to play football? Is it motivation? How does a coach make a team great? It seems that great players should make a great team but the current Chargers squad is putting that theory to rest.

SB

[BigDawgFan]

The Chargers should've fired the GM instead of thier coach last year. That is why they are having the problems this year IMO.

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by SilvrBck

Ok, so, you have 60 amped up, testosterone laden, man-child freaks on an NFL football team. How much blame is there on a coaching staff when they lose? My Chargers are sucking balls right now and everyone is pointing fingers at the coaches. They're the same players. Their playbook is 80% the same as when Norv helped install it in the beginning. Did they wake up one day and forget how to play football? Is it motivation? How does a coach make a team great? It seems that great players should make a great team but the current Chargers squad is putting that theory to rest.

SB

It's the coaches responsibility to get all the "great" players working together as a team. Football is a team sport and everyone has to play at the top level at the same time for them to win. When you have a single offensive lineman take a play off it results in a sack or a run of 1 yard instead of a good play. The coaches have to get the players prepared and ready to go at each snap.

[schweiger_schmoke]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

It's the coaches responsibility to get all the "great" players working together as a team. Football is a team sport and everyone has to play at the top level at the same time for them to win. When you have a single offensive lineman take a play off it results in a sack or a run of 1 yard instead of a good play. The coaches have to get the players prepared and ready to go at each snap.

I'm not so sure if I'd agree that the coaches have the opportunity to prepare a team for every snap. I think that play-by-play game lay greatly in the QB and player's minds as opposed to the coaches whom are on the sidelines.

I would say that pre-game, half-time, and change of posessions could be opportune times for the coaches to have their heard. After watching my Bengals suck tonight against the Patriots... I can almost assure that the team's morale goes way beyond the influence of coaches at times.

I'm just going to go and be pissed about it some more. Haha.

[SaltyMcGee]

The coach is a cog in a machine that begins with ownership and ends with the players. When they are all chosen correctly, you end up with situations like New England, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis. There is a reason that these franchises remain a cut above all others. The stability of these organizations allows them to think strategically both in the long term and short term. These places have instituted a culture of success. It's the reason Randy Moss goes to the Patriots and thrives, where he failed in Oakland. The more that teams tinker, the more they regress. This is why San Diego is scewing up, and why my Redskins (who used to be one of those model franchises) have taken so long to return to form. Even if the playbook is the same, new coaches need at least three years to get players to buy in to their methods and philosophies.

[Addiction]

Originally Posted by SaltyMcGee

The coach is a cog in a machine that begins with ownership and ends with the players. When they are all chosen correctly, you end up with situations like New England, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis......It's the reason Randy Moss goes to the Patriots and thrives, where he failed in Oakland.......This is why San Diego is scewing up, and why my Redskins (who used to be one of those model franchises) have taken so long to return to form.

I agree with most of this post, there are so many moving parts in a football organization that building a great one is more of an art than a science. Two things however.

1. Pittsburgh is a great organization but Indy and New England are pretty much in a class by themselves in my opinion.

2. "have taken" leads me to think the journey is over, that should probably be "are taking" as the Redskins till have quite a ways to go.

[FlyerFanX]

I think a big part of the Eagles problems this year are with coaching. I think Andy Reid has too much on his plate - trying to run a football organization and deal with some very significant family problems. I'm not sure it's that easy to take the dad hat off and put the coach hat on in this case.

[Mystophales]

IMHO my view on what the problem with the Chargers is simply that teams are stacking the line of scrimmage with 8 and 9 guys and DARING Rivers to beat them. Plain and simple he is not getting the job done. How Rivers got selected to the Pro Bowl last year is beyond me.

I am not trying to bash the Chargers since I actually like the team and would like to see them do well. Just from watching the team play however it seems to me the way things are going...

[schweiger_schmoke]

I can gather we have many a different fan posting here!

[SaltyMcGee]

Originally Posted by Addiction

2. "have taken" leads me to think the journey is over, that should probably be "are taking" as the Redskins till have quite a ways to go.

I agree, they certainly do have a way to go. My point is that they have finally decided to settle down and leave their coaching staff and key personnel with the team following a disappointing season.

[vtdragon]

Originally Posted by SaltyMcGee

The coach is a cog in a machine that begins with ownership and ends with the players. When they are all chosen correctly, you end up with situations like New England, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis. There is a reason that these franchises remain a cut above all others.

Yes, but the coach is by far the most important cog. There are so many players on a team and modern NFL football has become so complex that it does take an entire organization to consistently field a good team.

[fizguy]

All I can say is a feel for ya! Nothing worse than cheering for a great team only to see them lose too many games. Trust me, I know! (Losing to Oakland last year was the worst ever.)

[mikey202]

The problem with San Diego is that they have a weak recieving corps, spread the defense and LT will get back on track.Gettin rid of Marty...stupid.

As for Pittsburgh...They did go on the road, beat the Colts at home, Won the Superbowl..(Thier 5th), have not let a running back, on an opposing offense, rush for over 100 yards since NOV 2005....28 straight games.
I like Tomlin, he has got the team motivated.

Dungy is a class act, and in a class by himself.

As for Bilichick......he is a good coach, and in a class by himself also.

[moose14]

Originally Posted by mikey202

The problem with San Diego is that they have a weak recieving corps, spread the defense and LT will get back on track.Gettin rid of Marty...stupid.

Actually the problem with my Bolts is not the receiving corps, but the db's. Jammer has always sucked, gets burned way too much. Florence single-handedly lost the playoff game last year with a stupid penalty after holding NE on 4th down and then getting beat on the go ahead score. Pretty tough to make the offence score 35 points a game and win all the time. Never did like Marty even when he was with KC. But he did have that team playing well and it is my understanding that the players loved him. My