Final Week Regular AP Polls...unbelievable

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by Mystophales

I don't think this is a case of whining. By the logic of having to be in a conference championship game in order to move into a NC game then Ohio State shouldn't be anywhere near it. The fact remains Georgia was ranked #4 before any of the games were played...this means the people doing the voting said that Georgia is the 4th best team in the country so if 1 and 2 both lose it would seem to me that they should at the very least be #2.

This whole BCS crap is a complete and utter joke and the fact remains it should be settled on the field.

I will agree with you on the BCS. I agree with you that it should be settled on the field. I'll even agree with you that Ohio shouldn't be in the title game. But the fact remains, Georgia didn't win it's division or make it to the conference championship. LSU did. In my opinion that eliminates Georgia from national title consideration. Of course, that's my opinion and its why I believe there should be a playoff system.

[BigDawgFan]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

I never knew bulldogs could whine so much! Poor us. We didn't even make it to the conference title game and now they won't let us play for the national title. Boo Hoo Hoo.

If memory serves me correctly if you run a race and on the final lap the 1st and 2nd place car crash then USUALLY the 3rd and 4th place cars move up. Personally I think the BCS is just BS. Should UGA have moved up? Maybe yes maybe no. Does LSU deserve it mor than UGA because they won the SECC. Yes. Do they deserve it more than Oklahoma? NO. Bottom line it's just a popularity contest. All bowls are BS. We can settle it on the field of play in every other sport in the NCAA EXCEPT Div 1 football.
Yes it is UGA's fault they didn't make it to the SECCG. Just like it's LSU's fault when they lost to lowly UK and Ark. The only difference between the two programs is that you lost the right two games, we didn't.

[mugwump]

And Ohio State backs into another championship game. I'm not complaining because their exit from the Rose Bowl opened up a New Years Day bowl for Michigan. Now we can both go and get our behinds paddled by superior teams. The Capital One Bowl must be pissed because they really wanted that Illinois - Florida matchup.

And I'm beginning to wonder why the Pac-10 even bothers staying with the BCS given their shoddy treatment year after year. I never believed the East Coast bias existed until I moved out here. You can't tell me that the Pac-10 isn't at least on par with the Big Ten and actually even better this year and yet the only team that ever makes it into the BCS mix is USC.

[LSU_Stogie]

Originally Posted by BigDawgFan

And the DAWGS get SCREWED!!!!!! Oh well, it's nothing but a glorified beauty contest.

Originally Posted by Mystophales

Where the hell is the love for the Bulldogs. Not a big fan of them but seems like they are getting screwed here...

I'll explain this to you...

LSU beat South Carolina AND Tennessee

Georgia beat Kentucky.

Let's count this up now, LSU beat the two teams you lost to and Georgia beat one of the two teams LSU lost to. You can guess how the Georgia-Arkansas game would have resulted but in the end it is just a guess...personally I think McFadden would have ran all over Georgia.

Georgia didn't make the SEC Championship therefore eliminating you from the NC.

LSU 13-2
UGA 12-2

Nuff' said.

As for Oklahoma...sure they beat Missouri...but come on, Missouri? Missouri lost twice to Oklahoma (therefore proving their stature among top programs) and beat Nebraska (big whoop), Texas Tech (meh), and Kansas (we saw how that worked out). Truthfully, the best teams they played were Oklahoma and Texas Tech...

Yes, LSU lost two games but they lost one to a ranked Kentucky team (fluke) and a very aggressive Arkansas team with a Heisman candidate on it. Chase Daniel didn't deserve to be in the running, IMHO.

Get real people, LSU may have lost twice but at least we lost fighting our hearts out in triple overtime. I could go deeper in depth with how the decision was the right one but I have to go study for class.

As for Georgia...quit your bitching. Get to the SEC Championship and then MAYBE we'll talk.

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by BigDawgFan

If memory serves me correctly if you run a race and on the final lap the 1st and 2nd place car crash then USUALLY the 3rd and 4th place cars move up. Personally I think the BCS is just BS. Should UGA have moved up? Maybe yes maybe no. Does LSU deserve it mor than UGA because they won the SECC. Yes. Do they deserve it more than Oklahoma? NO. Bottom line it's just a popularity contest. All bowls are BS. We can settle it on the field of play in every other sport in the NCAA EXCEPT Div 1 football.
Yes it is UGA's fault they didn't make it to the SECCG. Just like it's LSU's fault when they lost to lowly UK and Ark. The only difference between the two programs is that you lost the right two games, we didn't.

Let's get this straight. We're talking football, not NASCAR (Kevin Harvick fan) and you can't compare how they determine the winner unless you're talking about one of the Series which is based on points earned over a season and not just the last few weeks.
And like I said, I agree with you on the worthlessness of the BCS but until the universities stand up and do something about it - and give up the millions that the BCS brings in - nothing is going to change other than which fans are whining about being left out.

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by LSU_Stogie

I'll explain this to you...

LSU beat South Carolina AND Tennessee

Georgia beat Kentucky.

Let's count this up now, LSU beat the two teams you lost to and Georgia beat one of the two teams LSU lost to. You can guess how the Georgia-Arkansas game would have resulted but in the end it is just a guess...personally I think McFadden would have ran all over Georgia.

Georgia didn't make the SEC Championship therefore eliminating you from the NC.

LSU 13-2
UGA 12-2

Nuff' said.

As for Oklahoma...sure they beat Missouri...but come on, Missouri? Missouri lost twice to Oklahoma (therefore proving their stature among top programs) and beat Nebraska (big whoop), Texas Tech (meh), and Kansas (we saw how that worked out). Truthfully, the best teams they played were Oklahoma and Texas Tech...

Yes, LSU lost two games but they lost one to a ranked Kentucky team (fluke) and a very aggressive Arkansas team with a Heisman candidate on it. Chase Daniel didn't deserve to be in the running, IMHO.

Get real people, LSU may have lost twice but at least we lost fighting our hearts out in triple overtime. I could go deeper in depth with how the decision was the right one but I have to go study for class.

As for Georgia...quit your bitching. Get to the SEC Championship and then MAYBE we'll talk.

Is your head getting sore from trying to explain this over and over to people?

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by Mystophales

I don't think this is a case of whining. By the logic of having to be in a conference championship game in order to move into a NC game then Ohio State shouldn't be anywhere near it. The fact remains Georgia was ranked #4 before any of the games were played...this means the people doing the voting said that Georgia is the 4th best team in the country so if 1 and 2 both lose it would seem to me that they should at the very least be #2.

Well, if there was no SEC Championship game, Georgia would have been 3rd in the SEC but ranked ahead of the first and second place teams. The BCS had their heads up there backsides when they put Georgia at #4. If there was a lack of logic in the BCS last week, it was that Georgia was ranked #4. it is that.

Bottom line is LSU was playing in the post Season and Georgia wasn't. LSU won one more game while Georgia was watching it on TV.

[Genevapics]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

... And like I said, I agree with you on the worthlessness of the BCS but until the universities stand up and do something about it - and give up the millions that the BCS brings in - nothing is going to change other than which fans are whining about being left out.

Here's someone that gets it.

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by Genevapics

Here's someone that gets it.

I think everyone more or less gets it, except the bowl organizers and Athletic Directors. You do a Fan Poll and I am sure it would be at least 95% in favor of a playoff system.