New England V. Baltimore

[RPB67]

Wow...

Yup... Just read the headlines.

Patriots still in first place !!!!!!

[RPB67]

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

You have a unique perspective on when a team is not dominant:


Scoring Summary

1ST QUARTER

TDDeShaun Foster, 3 Yd run (John Kasay kick is good), 3:59. Drive: 18 plays, 80 yards in 11:01.

FGAdam Vinatieri 20 Yd, 0:47. Drive: 6 plays, 18 yards in 2:07.


2ND QUARTER

TDJoseph Addai, 2 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri kick is good), 1:33. Drive: 8 plays, 86 yards in 1:58.

3RD QUARTER

TDJoseph Addai, 4 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (Adam Vinatieri kick is good), 12:11. Drive: 8 plays, 60 yards in 2:49.

TDReggie Wayne, 59 Yd pass from Peyton Manning (Adam Vinatieri kick is good), 4:47. Drive: 2 plays, 70 yards in 0:46.


4TH QUARTER

TDJoseph Addai, 12 Yd run (Adam Vinatieri kick is good), 13:09. Drive: 11 plays, 55 yards in 4:17.


I think the facts here speak for themselves. Other than a first quarter score, it was all Colts, all day. Looks pretty dominant to me.

All that and they still couldnt beat the Patriots.....

[ResIpsa]

Originally Posted by mmblz

Cool - I guess we're all clear then: the Colts are GODS in Vic's mind!



Well....yeah... Guilty as charged.

At this point I'm not even going to attempt predictions, but I know we're all looking forward to the postseason...

yes......yes we are.

[ResIpsa]

Originally Posted by RPB67

All that and they still couldnt beat the Patriots.....

aren't you supposed to be washing the dishes or something?

[SteveDMatt]

Originally Posted by Quint

What a great win for the P-A-T-S last night dispite the refs allowing Baltimore to hold and interfer with the Pats receivers all night. Thats been going on all season and the Pats still manage to win.

I don't think we watched the same game.

The defensive holding call on 4th down which help keep the Pats drive alive was suspect at best. That type of contact happens on half of all NFL plays and is called maybe 5% of the time.

Frankly, I'm tired of seeing Brady whine to the refs after every incomplete play that there was holding or interference. I believe the aforementioned penalty was a result of that whining all game.

JMHO

[ATLHARP]

Originally Posted by mmblz

Cool - I guess we're all clear then: the Colts are GODS in Vic's mind!




At this point I'm not even going to attempt predictions, but I know we're all looking forward to the postseason...

Look,

The Colts are a great team. They have alot of talent, but like most teams they have some serious limitations as well. A big one is when injuries occur they have trouble filling the slots with reliable, durable replacements. That limitation exuded in the Chargers' game as well as the Chief's game. The Colts are damn good, but they are not better than the Pats..................and no amount of pissing,moaning, or fake crowd noise is gonna change that.


Andrew

[vtdragon]

Originally Posted by ATLHARP

Look,

The Colts are a great team. They have alot of talent, but like most teams they have some serious limitations as well. A big one is when injuries occur they have trouble filling the slots with reliable, durable replacements. That limitation exuded in the Chargers' game as well as the Chief's game. The Colts are damn good, but they are not better than the Pats..................and no amount of pissing,moaning, or fake crowd noise is gonna change that. Andrew

Well said. When all is said and done the ONLY thing that matters is who won the game. As Bill B says: "It is what it is" and the Pats are still unbeaten

[RPB67]

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

aren't you supposed to be washing the dishes or something?

To busy watching ESPN and evryone talking about the PATS being in first.

Funny..........no mention of the Colts....

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Here are the Panthers drives from that game:


Carolina Drive Summaries:

START QTR POSS. YRDL PLAYS YARDS RESULT

15:00 1 11:01 CAR 20 18 plays 80 yardsTouchdown

00:47 1 03:09 CAR 20 5 plays 5 yards Punt

119201:58 CAR 0 4 plays 14 yards Punt

05:41202:10 CAR 42 4 plays 10 yards Punt

01:33201:33 CAR 15 6 plays 17 yards End of Half

Sorry, I was partially wrong. I thought there was a second sustained drive in there with a turnover for Vinny. Must have been thinking of another game... I am working from memory and not a game summary sheet from a game played several weeks ago. And I was swtiching off between another game at the time too. But still, it was 2-1 time of posession in the first half and the Colts struggled in until the last drive. The Colts were still outplayed in that first half.

Maybe I'm just a fanboy, I just report the facts, I don't make them up.

But when it comes to thing that are subjective, like bogus Pass interference calls against the Pats, Manning's season was still better even if Brady breaks the TD pass record, They pats won but the Colts oputplayed them....you are a total fanboy. In your mind, it is the Colts should be undefeated and the Pats should have 3 losses. In reality The Colts are the second or third best team in the NFL.

Plus you called me a troll for starting a post after the loss to SD!!! So I think that gives me the right to call you a Fanboy

[RPB67]

Mike

Why are you wasting your time.

We ALL know who is undefeated and in FIRST PLACE.

Not the Colts................its the Patriots....again !!

[ResIpsa]

Originally Posted by Alpedhuez55

Sorry, I was partially wrong. I thought there was a second sustained drive in there with a turnover for Vinny. Must have been thinking of another game... I am working from memory and not a game summary sheet from a game played several weeks ago. And I was swtiching off between another game at the time too. But still, it was 2-1 time of posession in the first half and the Colts struggled in until the last drive. The Colts were still outplayed in that first half.



But when it comes to thing that are subjective, like bogus Pass interference calls against the Pats, Manning's season was still better even if Brady breaks the TD pass record, They pats won but the Colts oputplayed them....you are a total fanboy. In your mind, it is the Colts should be undefeated and the Pats should have 3 losses. In reality The Colts are the second or third best team in the NFL.

Plus you called me a troll for starting a post after the loss to SD!!! So I think that gives me the right to call you a Fanboy

Actually, I didn't call you a troll. I made a comment about trolls. You applied that comment to yourself for some reason completely unbeknownst to myself. But anywhoo, as fans of different teams we see our teams as the best. I expect nothing less.

Just as an aside, time of possession, like strength of schedule, is one of the biggest misleading stats out there.Teams that score quickly and that are explosive usually have TOP's right around 30 minutes or even less. The year the Colts set all the passing records their TOP was 29 minutes a game or something like that.

The Jags had a huge time advantage this Sunday, yet for most of the game were down by 10-14 points. Carolina had a huge time advantage yet got blown out by the Colts. The sole reason they had a time of possession advantage in the first half is they took almost 11 minutes to score on their first drive. Since the rest of their drives were bascially 4 and punt, 4 and punt 4 and punt it's unclear how they "dominated" as you again claim.

Just because one team has a time of possession advantage doesn't mean they dominated, it just as easily can mean that the other team is scoring quickly.

[ResIpsa]

Originally Posted by RPB67

Mike

Why are you wasting your time.

We ALL know who is undefeated and in FIRST PLACE.

Not the Colts................its the Patriots....again !!

Richard. Would you like to place a small wager that the Colts AREN'T in first place??

I think I can accomodate you!!

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by SteveDMatt

The defensive holding call on 4th down which help keep the Pats drive alive was suspect at best. That type of contact happens on half of all NFL plays and is called maybe 5% of the time.

Yes, when there is a game on the line, the refs are going to make the call...and are looking to throw to the outside...then no, that call is not made.

Ravens beat themselves. They are a physical team and get away with a lot, but when when they get little too physical, they are going to get those kind of calls.

[rumballs]

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