Samari Rolle is called "boy", he's pissed, and is finally fined by the NFL!!

[PadronMe]

Originally Posted by Mark C

The refs handed that game to the Patriots. Yes, Baltimore made mistakes.

How? he clearly had a handful of Moss' jersey on the 4th down. Whether or not it was tic-tac, it is clearly a penalty.

[PadronMe]

Originally Posted by joed

Well, Calling a man "Boy" in some places is considered a racial slur.

Where? I have never heard this before?

[hornitosmonster]

Where? I have never heard this before?

Really? Or are you being sarcastic?

[IHT]

Originally Posted by OB1 Stogie

Given your position, should the ref be fined or reprimanded at all???

my position on the ref isn't defined until what he actually said, other than the word "boy", is brought to light.

so far, i haven't read what the ref said, and when we do, who's going to be the one saying what he said, Samari, or the ref, or another bystander that heard it, or maybe they caught it on tape?

if the ref crossed the line as well, then by all means, fine him as well.

my point is simple. the Refs are "sacred ground". they are to be respected, they are the rule, they are the law on the field.
because the refs have to make split second judgement calls while one of S. Rolle's teammates is steady rapin' a receiver downfield, and gets called for it, whether it is "ticky-tack" or an outright penalty, it's a still a "penalty" and should be called as such.
that doesn't give Samari Rolle, even if he totally disagreed with it and if it was wrong, to say what HE said to the ref in the first place.
then, when the ref didn't back down and used the word "boy" (in whatever way he used it), he shouldn't be a punk bitch and go cryin to the media about it.

how asinine is that? have any of you gone and kicked someone in the shin and then when they kicked you back you go a cryin' to your mom like a big puss? <--- that's my stance.

now, whenever the ref's exact wording comes out, then i'll pass whatever my "opinion" is on that. as of now, S. Rolle is a punk ass whiny bitch in my books. he berated an official, and wasn't even correct with his comment in the first place, so he should be dealt with for his disrespecting the official and the league - maybe even add a little extra for whining to the press cuz his feelings were hurt.

Originally Posted by Mark C

I'll agree with the 'character' types they have on the Ravens. As a generalization, obviously there are several stand-up players. In fact, probably more so than those with bad attitudes, but they keep their mouth shut so it's easy to overlook. But there are definitely some bad apples.
IHT - i totally agree.

Now as for the level of respect... I think it goes both ways. The refs handed that game to the Patriots. Yes, Baltimore made mistakes. But the Patriots are hard enough to beat on their own, the last thing Baltimore needed was terrible calls in key moments of the game that dropped scoring opportunities right into Brady's lap. I'd have been pissed if I were on that field too, and I probably would have said things that wouldn't have sounded so good the next day.
IHT - from what i hear, as i didn't watch the first 3 quarters, the Ravens had plenty calls go their way. and from what i "saw", the Baltimore players committed penalties that were called. sometimes penalties don't get called (like when D. Mason on the hail mary was blocking/picking DBs and throwing them to the ground while the balls in the air), and they also have an impact on the game. like i said, i didn't watch the first 3 quarters, just bits and pieces until the last 2 minutes.
should Samari have aimed his comments at his dumbass teammates who were tackling the receivers while the ball is in flight, or the ref that called the penalties on those players? i'm not 100% on what play Samari was so upset about, but i saw clear penalties in the replay (maybe i'm biased cuz i was a TE as well).
i do feel that the TD to Caldwell was not a catch, he didn't have control of the ball. who's to say what would've happened from the 5 with 44 Sec's left and 3 more tries.

It's not just this game either, NCAA was riddled with horrible officiating. Some of which likely cost certain teams hundreds of thousands of dollars in missed bowl opportunities. Last night's game may not have made a difference on either team's season, but there's no excuse for lopsided officiating.
IHT - exactly. officiating, in general, has been off.

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Originally Posted by Bigwaved

This link has a radio interview of Rolle.

Click here

listening to it now. thanks for the link.


he's most upset about the call in the endzone with ben watson????
WHAT??? dude was straight RAPED from the get-go, and was TACKLED by the DB while the ball is in the air??!!!

what in the hell is wrong with this dude. does he not know the rules?


he said the ref said, "man, shut up, boy, go back to playin'."

AND HE'S UPSET ABOUT THAT??? c'mon...... what's he suppose to say when he's constantly being berated by spoiled players for 60 minutes???

F Samari in the neck.


EDIT: forgot to add that these are just my dumbass opinions. opinions are neither right nor wrong, just opinions.

[OB1 Stogie]

Originally Posted by IHT

my position on the ref isn't defined until what he actually said, other than the word "boy", is brought to light.

so far, i haven't read what the ref said, and when we do, who's going to be the one saying what he said, Samari, or the ref, or another bystander that heard it, or maybe they caught it on tape?

if the ref crossed the line as well, then by all means, fine him as well.

my point is simple. the Refs are "sacred ground". they are to be respected, they are the rule, they are the law on the field.
because the refs have to make split second judgement calls while one of S. Rolle's teammates is steady rapin' a receiver downfield, and gets called for it, whether it is "ticky-tack" or an outright penalty, it's a still a "penalty" and should be called as such.
that doesn't give Samari Rolle, even if he totally disagreed with it and if it was wrong, to say what HE said to the ref in the first place.
then, when the ref didn't back down and used the word "boy" (in whatever way he used it), he shouldn't be a punk bitch and go cryin to the media about it.

how asinine is that? have any of you gone and kicked someone in the shin and then when they kicked you back you go a cryin' to your mom like a big puss? <--- that's my stance.

now, whenever the ref's exact wording comes out, then i'll pass whatever my "opinion" is on that. as of now, S. Rolle is a punk ass whiny bitch in my books. he berated an official, and wasn't even correct with his comment in the first place, so he should be dealt with for his disrespecting the official and the league - maybe even add a little extra for whining to the press cuz his feelings were hurt.



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listening to it now. thanks for the link.


he's most upset about the call in the endzone with ben watson????
WHAT??? dude was straight RAPED from the get-go, and was TACKLED by the DB while the ball is in the air??!!!

what in the hell is wrong with this dude. does he not know the rules?


he said the ref said, "man, shut up, boy, go back to playin'."

AND HE'S UPSET ABOUT THAT??? c'mon...... what's he suppose to say when he's constantly being berated by spoiled players for 60 minutes???

F Samari in the neck.


EDIT: forgot to add that these are just my dumbass opinions. opinions are neither right nor wrong, just opinions.

How do you know the "sacred" ref was berated and what do you consider berated??? Refs are berated by coaches all the time....do they react to coaches the way the react to players??? I would venture a guess that the answer would be know. My guess is that this particular ref took offense to the "have you ever played" comment and went a little too far. Your opinion of the officials is a little bit rediculous, to think that they are somehow "above the law" is crazy....if their word was the last word than we wouldn't need instant replay. We all know that most of the players have questionable judgement but if the officials are to be held in such high esteem, they must act accordingly.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by smokinpoke

Players should be held to high standards but those officiating should be held to even higher standards.

Society sees these people (refs, umps, judges, police officers..etc) in high authority positions. Therefore they should be above name calling.

They (refs, umps, judges, police officers..etc) are human beings too and deserve better than what Rolle dished out.

[ky toker]

Let me just say that after watching those interviews I'm just skeptical about their whole bitch fest. Now, I can't hear anything being said between the refs and players, but judging on body language players seems to get away with a lot of abuse towards the officials. I think both sides need to practice a little more respect towards others.

[PadronMe]

Originally Posted by hornitosmonster

Really? Or are you being sarcastic?

Seriously. How is that a racial slur?

[smokinpoke]

Originally Posted by PadronMe

Seriously. How is that a racial slur?

It is.

[NCRadioMan]

Originally Posted by PadronMe

Seriously. How is that a racial slur?

Educate yourself. Do a little reading about history and the master/slave relationship. You may read how the master called their male slaves "boy" if they were young or old signifying their "dominance" over them no matter what the age.

[smokinpoke]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Educate yourself. Do a little reading about history and the master/slave relationship.

Thank you I didn't know how to put it delicately.

[cman78]

When did players get to argue with Refs. These professional players that all our kids watch are setting an example. My son wrestles and last year he got mad cause a ref wasn't calling choking in one of his matches. He got mad and told the ref and the ref said I make the calls not you. I told my son if he was really upset about it go to his coach and let his coach handle it but my son is to stay out of it. When a ref makes a call you honor it or your coach argues for you. I think if you pop off to a ref then he has every right to be an Ahole. Maybe I am just old school.

[cman78]

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Educate yourself. Do a little reading about history and the master/slave relationship. You may read how the master called their male slaves "boy" if they were young or old signifying their "dominance" over them no matter what the age.

While I agree with your reasoning on why 'boy' could be considered racism in certain cases. I don't think 3 million a year for Rollie classifies him as a slave and I don't think here it is racism.

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by cman78

While I agree with your reasoning on why 'boy' could be considered racism in certain cases. I don't think 3 million a year for Rollie classifies him as a slave and I don't think here it is racism.

In this case, racism, no. Condescending and inappropriate, yes. I think refs should be held more accountable, for their actions (or inactions) and their words. I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression bad/missed/incorrect calls are rarely punished. But if a player spouts off at the mouth or makes a similar error in judgement, they get fined. I've gotten the feeling this year from the NCAA games and a few NFL games that the refs walk around the field like they're God. The quote above about the wrestling ref saying 'I make the calls not you' is a good example of that. Their mistakes can throw a game just as easily as a personal foul.

[IHT]

Originally Posted by cman78

When did players get to argue with Refs. These professional players that all our kids watch are setting an example. My son wrestles and last year he got mad cause a ref wasn't calling choking in one of his matches. He got mad and told the ref and the ref said I make the calls not you. I told my son if he was really upset about it go to his coach and let his coach handle it but my son is to stay out of it. When a ref makes a call you honor it or your coach argues for you. I think if you pop off to a ref then he has every right to be an Ahole. Maybe I am just old school.

jackpot.

Originally Posted by OB1 Stogie

How do you know the "sacred" ref was berated and what do you consider berated??? Refs are berated by coaches all the time....do they react to coaches the way the react to players???
IHT - sometimes they do. if you've never watched those shows on NFL network and listened to what the refs say back to the coaches, sorry, i can't remember every instance and every comment, but i have seen/heard it.
okay, how about i change it from "berated" to "disrespecting" or "unsportsmanlike conduct"?

I would venture a guess that the answer would be know. My guess is that this particular ref took offense to the "have you ever played" comment and went a little too far.
IHT - what?? he said, "shut up, boy, go back to playin'." that's too far??? hell, he's trying to help the player more than anything. his teammates are probably telling him the same thing, "shut up and play ball."

Your opinion of the officials is a little bit rediculous, to think that they are somehow "above the law" is crazy....
IHT - please oh please oh please point out where i said they were "above the law"?? THEY ARE THE LAW ON THE FIELD!! hence the name "OFFICIAL". that is not "above the law".
my opinion of the officials is based on playing the game and being taught to respect the officials, what they say is "the law" of the game. every sport i played, it was the same. the officials have the last say, as they are the RULING OFFICIALS on the matter.

if their word was the last word than we wouldn't need instant replay.
IHT - we all know WHY there is a need for instant replay on certain issues - some are not reviewable though, and those are judgement calls on most penalties.

We all know that most of the players have questionable judgement but if the officials are to be held in such high esteem, they must act accordingly.

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