I come not to praise the Saints but...

[macjoe53]

to bury this season. The agony is finally over for this year and we can now start dreaming of a miracle happening in the offseason and draft where we actually get some defensive players who know how to play. And maybe the coaches will sit back and review all the game tapes from this year and last and understand that the losses were just as much their faults as it was of the "good" players on team.

[Rahllin]

Amen To That!

[ResIpsa]

I thought you came to steal my thread title,

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=112790

[JohnnyFlake]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

to bury this season. The agony is finally over for this year and we can now start dreaming of a miracle happening in the offseason and draft where we actually get some defensive players who know how to play. And maybe the coaches will sit back and review all the game tapes from this year and last and understand that the losses were just as much their faults as it was of the "good" players on team.

If you really want to be serious about this, many of the wins for the Patriots, especially last night and several others games as well, can be attributed to the Refs being in their corner!!!

There are many issues and I don't plan on discussing them all, however, one of the main issues is how the Refs have allowed Moss to push off on his defenders all year, at least six times last night, will no flags! I believe that throughout the whole season he was only flagged three times combined in two separate games. What Bull Shit!!!

[Budprince]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

to bury this season. The agony is finally over for this year and we can now start dreaming of a miracle happening in the offseason and draft where we actually get some defensive players who know how to play. And maybe the coaches will sit back and review all the game tapes from this year and last and understand that the losses were just as much their faults as it was of the "good" players on team.

I hear you brother. As a Panthers fan, and division rival for the Saints I feel your pain. the Panthers are in the same boat. Needing an ifusion of a solid power back, some better offensive linemen and some tougher defensive players - and don't get me started on the special teams or Quarterbacks. . . Glad their season is over and I can watch the play offs without a dog in the hunt. . .

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlake

If you really want to be serious about this, many of the wins for the Patriots, especially last night and several others games as well, can be attributed to the Refs being in their corner!!!

There are many issues and I don't plan on discussing them all, however, one of the main issues is how the Refs have allowed Moss to push off on his defenders all year, at least six times last night, will no flags! I believe that throughout the whole season he was only flagged three times combined in two separate games. What Bull Shit!!!

I'm with you. I thought that "pass interference" in the first quarter was bogus at best and was closer to what I've seen called as offensive pass interference in most games. But if the refs wouldn't have called it, the Patsy's wouldn't have been able to score that touchdown. And I won't even mention the holding calls that should have been called against the Patty's but weren't.

[JohnnyFlake]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

I'm with you. I thought that "pass interference" in the first quarter was bogus at best and was closer to what I've seen called as offensive pass interference in most games. But if the refs wouldn't have called it, the Patsy's wouldn't have been able to score that touchdown. And I won't even mention the holding calls that should have been called against the Patty's but weren't.

Like I said there are so many issues that it's crazy to try an discuss them all. As far as the Patty's holding, it was beyond my imagination how many blatant holds the Refs did not call on them yesterday. The biggest example was during the 1st quarter when the Patty's went for the first and ten on 4th down. All four linemen forming the pocket were blatantly holding and no flag. Of course they made the first and ten!