College Football Final thoughts

[macjoe53]

Just some random thoughts about this year's college football season:

1. The SEC is the current dominant conference in college football. Records don't lie.

2. IMHO the BCS championship game was very exciting... but I'm not a Buckeye fan.

3. The people on ESPN College Gameday have no respect for LSU or the SEC. Before the game Lee Corso was all about how great Ohio State was and after the game it was about how much better USC was than LSU.

4. Matt Flynn may not be the best QB in college football but he showed poise and leadership.

5. Having the #1 defense in the nation doesn't mean much if it's not tested during the season.

6. Hopefully the BCS Officials talking about looking at a +1 or +2 playoff system will really look at it and not let the Big 10/Pac 10/Rose Bowl have their way again.

7. If you don't win your division/conference you have no valid claim on being the best in the nation.

8. Someone in the NFL should give Jacob Hester a job.

9. I think that if Georgia can play next year like they finished this season, then it should be a very good SEC Championship game.

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[Alpedhuez55]

There was no dominant team or conference in college football this year.

There is more parity than ever.

The Big East improving.

The Big 10 and 12 are sinking.

Pac 10 needs to split into north and south and have a championship game. This will allow for more play outside the conference.

This year more than ever points out the need for a playoff team.

[Mark C]

The SEC WAS the dominant team this year. (They won 61.9% of their games, next closest was actually Big East with 59.4%).

There is more parity than ever, but that doesn't mean there isn't a dominant conference.

The Big East had one good team this year, and one good team last year. They're still the redheaded stepchild of Div 1A.

The ACC is a mere shadow of what it should be.

Officiating still sucks.

Commentators still suck. And play favorites (like when Lee Corso picked GT to beat VT back in '01 and lightning struck his car).

Too many players are turning into thugs and getting arrested. At least wait until you're drafted by the Bengals to do that.

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by Mark C

The SEC WAS the dominant team this year. (They won 61.9% of their games, next closest was actually Big East with 59.4%).

There is more parity than ever, but that doesn't mean there isn't a dominant conference.

SEC was the best, but Pac 10 is close. Would have loved to see LSU vs USC!!!! Plus some conferences play more in conference games, like the Pac 10, so the winning percentage is going to be closer to 50%

The Big East had one good team this year, and one good team last year. They're still the redheaded stepchild of Div 1A.

Rutgers, U-Conn and South Florida are starting to look like they are building good top 25 caliber programs. If BC and VT stayed in the Big East, it would have been one of the top 3 conferences in the country this year.

The ACC is a mere shadow of what it should be.

Those Florida teams sucked this year!!!

Too many players are turning into thugs and getting arrested. At least wait until you're drafted by the Bengals to do that.

NCAA should be in charge of suspending players, not the coach. Standardize it, and get strict.

Though with the number of top players sitting out big games, some of the Coaches get it.

[pistol]

How do you figure the Big 12 is sinking? The Big 12 finished the season with four teams in the Top 10 (KU,MU, OU, UT), and three of its top 4 teams won their bowl games (KU, MU, UT). If anything, the Big 12 is finally getting better after 4 years of real mediocrity. That being said, the SEC was clearly the best conference AGAIN this year! The PAC 10 and the Big 10 need to add two more teams each so that they can play a championship game. It's BS that the other major conferences can basically play themselves out of National Championship game because they have to play a conference championship game while the Big 10 and Pac 10 sit at home and watch.

[boonedoggle]

AP Poll has Georgia at #2! Geaux SEC!

[TideRoll]

I think the SEC is clearly dominant right now, but we aren't above challenge (see Michigan/Florida). If Neuheisel (if that is the correct spelling) can do something at UCLA, maybe having another horse out West might do good things for the Pac Ten overall in three or four years. The Big Ten and Big Twelve aren't that far behind in terms of starting athletes from the SEC or USC but I don't think they have quite as much talent depth. The Big East is capable of making some real noise. Still, the best athletes, I think, are in the SEC. The coaching in the SEC is just shockingly strong and clearly a strength no other conference can match. I don't know if the top to bottom coaching in any conference at any time in the past can match up with the SEC right now. Something has to give, and the next few years is going to be real interesting in the SEC.

I don't think anything approaching an actual playoff is going to happen anytime soon, and I don't care if it ever happens. Even if there had been a playoff this year, LSU (two losses and all) and Georgia would have probably been the last two teams, assuming that the bracket were not put together to ensure some kind of geographic coverage (which it would, in all likelihood, ratings being primary to the kingmakers). USC finished pretty strong once they got everyone healthy, they might have been there and may have given LSU a better run for their money.

As far as even a small playoff, a fifteen or sixteen game season would go too much against what college presidents have been trying to do over the past decade regarding the concept of the student-athlete (regardless of what one might think about it). I don't see the regular season being shortened to make room for a playoff, since that would be taking money out of the pockets of every other team that doesn't make a playoff and would go against the needs of conference play inherent in the "super-conference" trend. Also, the season is plenty long enough right now as far as getting through it without serious injury issues. The conferences which have gotten serious and imposed a championship game probably aren't going to give that up easily, either.

Finally, we already have a playoff: It's called the football season. As it stands now, every game counts, and that is the way it should be. Wanna make the big game? Easy: win the ones before it and play real opposition. I don't see as a fan of the SEC why we should run a gauntlet during the regular season only to have to face another mini-one against a lot of teams that played powderpuff regular seasons and never got anyone injured. That already happens in some bowl games and with the current situation, at least half the teams end the season on a win, which is worth something.

I don't oppose a plus one thing but I don't know that it is necessary; the BCS once again, despite the whining from the sports journalists (who may just have an ulterior motive) and untidiness, still produced a logical, credible champion. Tweak it if you want to, but a playoff isn't necessary. If we had a playoff, the strong would still win out anyway, and frankly, the SEC and other talent-deep conferences would have an even greater advantage.

P.S. The previous post was correct: officiating still sucks, only now it takes them longer to suck. Am I the only one who thinks they resent the replay and thus are using it to drag out games in hopes of having it canned?

[TideRoll]

Originally Posted by pistol

That being said, the SEC was clearly the best conference AGAIN this year! The PAC 10 and the Big 10 need to add two more teams each so that they can play a championship game. It's BS that the other major conferences can basically play themselves out of National Championship game because they have to play a conference championship game while the Big 10 and Pac 10 sit at home and watch.

I agree, and I also think there might be a correlation there, too.

[mugwump]

Well the Big Ten (actually 11 with Penn State) is in a bit of a bind when it comes to adding a 12th team. All Big Ten schools also belong to the Committee on Institutional Cooperation, a Midwestern academic consortium which includes ex-Big Ten member the University of Chicago (they were a football powerhouse way back when). They also must be members of the Association of American Universities, another academic group made up of the top PhD granting schools in the country. So if you want to add a 12th school it has to not only be at least close to the Midwest, it also has to be academically eligible. That leaves Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, and Pitt as possibilities. Noticeably absent from this list is Notre Dame.

[bigben]

Just some random thoughts about this year's college football season:

1. The SEC is the current dominant conference in college football. Records don't lie. This is a cycle and right now they have it all, eventually it will go back to the ACC or pac 10 or big ten.

2. IMHO the BCS championship game was very exciting... but I'm not a Buckeye fan. I am a OSU fan and thought it was a pretty good game, i do think lsu played better, but got alot of help from penalties.

3. The people on ESPN College Gameday have no respect for LSU or the SEC. Before the game Lee Corso was all about how great Ohio State was and after the game it was about how much better USC was than LSU.
I think it is their job to stir controversy now, to make next season seem exciting, it is good marketing, on the other hand you have a 2 loss LSU to un ranked teams Vs. OSU who was rarely challenged, BOTH teams backed into this game.... LSU won the championship game, i dont think it means they are the best team but i will say they are prolly top 3 easily.

4. Matt Flynn may not be the best QB in college football but he showed poise and leadership. Yes he did, i was impressed.

5. Having the #1 defense in the nation doesn't mean much if it's not tested during the season. The number 3 defense gave up more yards from offense

6. Hopefully the BCS Officials talking about looking at a +1 or +2 playoff system will really look at it and not let the Big 10/Pac 10/Rose Bowl have their way again. This was a mis match and largely due to USC having SUCH a slump mid season, on the same note I dont think LSU should have jumped 3 spots on a weak win against tenn to play was was in effect a HOME GAME... it works both ways.

7. If you don't win your division/conference you have no valid claim on being the best in the nation. NOT TRUE at allllll.... especially this season, i think georgia, usc, kansas, and WVU all have valid claims to play in the championship game, and i doubt osu or lsu could run the table on all 4 of those teams....

8. Someone in the NFL should give Jacob Hester a job. He has one lined up, and look at the history of SEC coaches going pro.. eeeek

9. I think that if Georgia can play next year like they finished this season, then it should be a very good SEC Championship game. For georgia maybe... not for the rest of the sec!

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[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by TideRoll

If Neuheisel (if that is the correct spelling) can do something at UCLA, maybe having another horse out West might do good things for the Pac Ten overall in three or four years.

Even if there had been a playoff this year, LSU (two losses and all) and Georgia would have probably been the last two teams, assuming that the bracket were not put together to ensure some kind of geographic coverage

USC finished pretty strong once they got everyone healthy, they might have been there and may have given LSU a better run for their money.

Finally, we already have a playoff: It's called the football season. As it stands now, every game counts, and that is the way it should be. Wanna make the big game? Easy: win the ones before it and play real opposition. I don't see as a fan of the SEC why we should run a gauntlet during the regular season only to have to face another mini-one against a lot of teams that played powderpuff regular seasons and never got anyone injured. That already happens in some bowl games and with the current situation, at least half the teams end the season on a win, which is worth something.

I don't oppose a plus one thing but I don't know that it is necessary; the BCS once again, despite the whining from the sports journalists (who may just have an ulterior motive) and untidiness, still produced a logical, credible champion.

I agree that the PAC 10 needs another competitive team to challenge USC. Any PAC 10 fan outside of southern Cal would agree with that also.

LSU won it's conference. If there was a playoff, I can't see a conference champion being one of the last seeds. That would be like making the Patriots or Colts wild card teams after winning their divisions.

I think a LSU/USC game would have been entertaining and LSU would have won based on the fact that USC didn't play teams of the same level as LSU. There is a reason they temper steel in fire. It makes it stronger.

I think the talk of USC or Georgia being number one because they are "hot" at the end of the season is bogus. What matters in all other level of football is not who won the last few games of the season but who won more games throughout the season. The media tends to vote in the polls based on "what have you done for me lately" or "which of my favorite teams won yesterday."

Ulterior motive from journalist? You're kidding right? It's called "that's how they make their living." If they couldn't stir up controversy who would listen to them.

[nuke999]

Final Thoughts:

This system sucks.

Hats off to LSU.

As good as the SEC is they also play their share of tomato cans at the beginning of the season.

To produce an actual champion you need a playoff system. The smaller divisions do it. Appalachain St. won again and played 11 regular season games and 4 playoff games. Right now you have a popularity contest. Every top team deserves a shot at the title now matter which conference they play in.

SEC teams are fair weather teams. Those sissies should come up north in December and play.

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by nuke999

Final Thoughts:

This system sucks.

Hats off to LSU.

As good as the SEC is they also play their share of tomato cans at the beginning of the season.

To produce an actual champion you need a playoff system. The smaller divisions do it. Appalachain St. won again and played 11 regular season games and 4 playoff games. Right now you have a popularity contest. Every top team deserves a shot at the title now matter which conference they play in.

SEC teams are fair weather teams. Those sissies should come up north in December and play.

You had me agreeing with you until that last statement. Bring your tough winter teams down here in August & September and see how long they last in the heat and humidity.

[JJVaughn]

Final thoughts...

Being a sports fan in Ohio sucks.

OSU football loses in championship game
OSU Basket ball loses in championship game
Cav's lose in championship
Tribe loses 3-1 lead in ALCS
Browns miss playoffs by one game
OSU football loses in championship game

and spare me the "at least they were exciting seasons!' rhetoric. They were, but I'm sick of getting my hopes up just to get kicked in the nuts

[nuke999]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

You had me agreeing with you until that last statement. Bring your tough winter teams down here in August & September and see how long they last in the heat and humidity.

hey now.....wait a minute......ummmm....ok, ya got me. they would die.