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Shamrock Verses Ortiz in UFC

This is a discussion on Shamrock Verses Ortiz in UFC within the Sports Forum forums, part of the Everything But Cigars category; Originally Posted by ky toker Exactly! The 1st fight Shamrock rocked Tito with a right but Tito came back and ...
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Old 06-14-2006, 05:53 PM   #31
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Exactly!

The 1st fight Shamrock rocked Tito with a right but Tito came back and recovered. Tito will take this fight, too.
But Ken's knee was screwed up. If he is healthy and Ken hits Tito like he did Fujita, night, night Tito! I just always thought Tito has no heart once he gets rocked. I mean c'mon tapping to punches? I would rather be knocked out.

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Old 06-14-2006, 06:49 PM   #32
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I'm with CBF on this one Ken might get beat but there is no way I'm pullin for Ortiz! I'm hoping for a hellmary! Or a chokeout...Come on Ken!

Since Ken got beat so bad last time I think this should be a 2 to 1 bet for CBF Shamrock wins he gets 10...Ortiz wins you get 5....Seems fair...
Feel free to take 2-1 odds in any bets that YOU make.
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:55 PM   #33
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But Ken's knee was screwed up. If he is healthy and Ken hits Tito like he did Fujita, night, night Tito! I just always thought Tito has no heart once he gets rocked. I mean c'mon tapping to punches? I would rather be knocked out.

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Exactly!!! Everybody that steps into the ring has a will and a desire to win and have some heart. But I just don’t think Tito has much. It just kinda seems to me like MMA is more of a game to him then anything else. Don’t get me wrong, not to talk anything away from him, he can fight, and can throw elbows and he can talk shit. I really think people will be a bit surprised when he steps into the ring with Ken and gets dropped with some heavy leather. Ken just has this crazy passion for what he does, it’s not always for the best but it’s something I respect more then ability and more then how much trash he can talk.
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Old 06-14-2006, 07:16 PM   #34
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Tito is going to own Ken. End of discussion.

And Frank was a MUCH better fighter than Ken EVER was.. Frank Shamrock was a hell of alot more well rounded than Ken ever could have hoped to be.
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Tito is going to own Ken. End of discussion.
Does that mean I need to be quiet now? I'm so bad at that!
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Old 06-14-2006, 07:46 PM   #36
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Re: Shamrock Verses Ortiz in UFC
TITO hands down. I recentall got into the UFC with the SPIKE tv stuff. I think tito is better. Shamrock has more additude but tito will shove that sh*t in his mouth and out his ass
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Does that mean I need to be quiet now? I'm so bad at that!
You and I both!

Your gonna be sitting pretty when this fight ends Icehog.. Your gonna need to buy a new humi with all these smokes you keep winning..
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You and I both!

Your gonna be sitting pretty when this fight ends Icehog.. Your gonna need to buy a new humi with all these smokes you keep winning..
That's what I'm talkin' about!!!
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:57 AM   #39
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That's what I'm talkin' about!!!

No sticks for joo!!!!! You come back 2 years!!

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:43 AM   #40
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But Ken's knee was screwed up. If he is healthy and Ken hits Tito like he did Fujita, night, night Tito! I just always thought Tito has no heart once he gets rocked. I mean c'mon tapping to punches? I would rather be knocked out.

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I hear what you're saying, but Tito is one of the most fitness nuts out there and will come prepared. Ken can catch him, but in no way is Ken in the same leauge of striker as Liddell and I don't believe he has the same game as his brother either.

The Tito - F. Shamrock fight was long ago. The fight even went into the 4th round and was one hell of a fight. And Tito has improved tremendously since then. I'd really like to see Frank back in the UFC to see how he matches up (or destroys) the current fighters.

Ken Shamrock is past his prime, but I do not discount want he can bring into a fight. He should bring a good fight to Tito but in the end I believe it will be Tito's hand raised.

I have 2 sticks that say Tito wins. What say you?
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Re: Shamrock Verses Ortiz in UFC
Ok what do you guys think about the Silvia & Alovski Fight....I hope Silvia takes him again...
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Old 06-15-2006, 12:26 PM   #42
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Ok what do you guys think about the Silvia & Alovski Fight....I hope Silvia takes him again...
Tougher call for me, I have only seen a few fights by each, including their first two match-ups. I'll be rooting for Tim, but wouldn't bet the farm on it.
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Ok what do you guys think about the Silvia & Alovski Fight....I hope Silvia takes him again...
Silvia is a goofy bastard.. I do not see him winning this match up. The last fight was fluke. Silvia was hit hard, started to stumble, Arlovski didn't capitalize on the situation and ended up getting caught on the button.

Arlovski is the better fighter, all around.

I would be willing to put a few sticks on this fight if anyone is interested in backing Silvia on this one..
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Re: Shamrock Verses Ortiz in UFC
This rubber match should be interesting as I hear Alovski is bringing a chin with him.

I'll have to agree this is a tough call. Tim is a tough big guy and if it's a toe to toe fight he'll drop Alovski again. Alovski brings a punch and dropped Tim in the first fight and his more submissions in his tool box. I don't know yet.
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Silvia is a goofy bastard.. I do not see him winning this match up. The last fight was fluke. Silvia was hit hard, started to stumble, Arlovski didn't capitalize on the situation and ended up getting caught on the button.

Arlovski is the better fighter, all around.

I would be willing to put a few sticks on this fight if anyone is interested in backing Silvia on this one..
I'll take Silvia...For a fiver!.....
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