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Old 07-30-2007, 09:20 AM   #1
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Jose Canseco Writing Another Book, Hints at A-Rod Using Steroids

Looks like Jose is going to write another tell all book. This time he may be outting Alex Rodriguez for steroids.

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Friday, Canseco called Rodriguez a hypocrite on Boston radio station WEEI, saying he wasn't what he appeared to be. Asked if the New York Yankees star had used steroids, he tantalizingly said, "Wait and see."

"I only write the absolute truth," he told me. "We know that because no one is trying to sue me. We will have to wait and see what the second book says."

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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colum...-mission_N.htm

I like A-Rod, and think he is an awesome player. But I have always wondered in this "Age of the Juice" if he was clean. He is bigger by like 30 to 40 lbs than he was when he was a rookie. Really doesn't matter to me anymore. With all the people in sports doing steroids, should this really be surprising?

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Re: Jose Canseco Writing Another Book, Hints at A-Rod Using Steroids

A-Rod and steroids.

Who would have thought ! Its pretty easy just by looking at him to see that he is taking them. So are many others.

But I think most take some sort of supplements to help them along. It looks like this is the way professional sports is heading.
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Really doesn't matter to me anymore. With all the people in sports doing steroids, should this really be surprising?

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No. Sports is another wing of show business. The fact that something shady or devious is in professional sports is more the norm than the exception.

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A-Rod and steroids.

Who would have thought ! Its pretty easy just by looking at him to see that he is taking them. So are many others.

But I think most take some sort of supplements to help them along. It looks like this is the way professional sports is heading.
I agree it does seem to be the "trend" to use whatever you can to get an advantage. But who do we blame for the people doing them, The Players or ourselves for expecting so much out of them.

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No. Sports is another wing of show business. The fact that something shady or devious is in professional sports is more the norm than the exception.

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yeah, sports has become show business. We have all kinds of people from Wrestlers, Footballers, Basketballers, Baseballers, MMA fighters, Boxers, Cyclist, and heck even Hollywood stars such as Stallone(he was busted in Austrailia with HGH I think) getting caught with the performance enhancing drugs. It is becoming as much an entertainment problem as well as a sports problem.

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Re: Jose Canseco Writing Another Book, Hints at A-Rod Using Steroids

I don't think there's any way that A-Rod is using steroids. He doesn't have chicken legs () or a big head or a disproportionately large arms/chest. It seems to me that he just filled out. He was only 19 when he came up on 95, you know. Bodies still naturally change at that point.
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I don't think there's any way that A-Rod is using steroids. He doesn't have chicken legs () or a big head or a disproportionately large arms/chest. It seems to me that he just filled out. He was only 19 when he came up on 95, you know. Bodies still naturally change at that point.
Like many have said, if Jose was just spouting wouldn't you think more of the people he has accused, Big Mac and Palmeiro and many others, would have sued him by now? Slander and liable and all that stuff. A-rod respones when he found out what Jose said was "No Comment"

But you see Jose was right about the use of 'roids in Baseball,even when people were saying (Curt Shilling) he was just making up these numbers. Yet we find Jose was telling the truth. Case in point, Rafael "I have never taken steroids!!!" Palmeiro.

I think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to who was/is doing steroids and other performance enhancers. I mean come on Brady Anderson hit 51 HR in a season once. Once! Heck at this point it might be easier to name the players who didn't do performance enhancers, instead of trying to name all those who did/are.

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I don't think there's any way that A-Rod is using steroids. He doesn't have chicken legs () or a big head or a disproportionately large arms/chest. It seems to me that he just filled out. He was only 19 when he came up on 95, you know. Bodies still naturally change at that point.
I would have to agree that he has filled out over time and would be surprised if he used them. I contrast him to Nomar who changed in the time of one off season. He was always well built but turned into a SI cover boy in one winter. Also, A-Rod has not seemed to have the use injuries that would go with playing SS/3B and using steroids unlike Nomar. It does hurt to defend a Yankee player and accuse a former Red Sox player.
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Re: Jose Canseco Writing Another Book, Hints at A-Rod Using Steroids

I would like to give A-rod the benefit of the doubt. As has already been mentioned, he is not disproportionately huge compared to some of his comrades in the league. I think one thing to think about is the amount of time these guys have to use or waste in the off season. A-rod being one of the most visible stars on a large market team with a huge payroll, is under intense pressure to perform. He has between 4.5-6 months of down time in the off season in which he can either:

A. Work his tail off in the gym to keep his numbers up and his superstar status, or

B. Do nothing for a couple months as I am sure some of the players do.

Were he to choose the former, he easily could have built the frame on which he plays over his seasons in the league. It is the players jobs to maintain their physique and skills. Were any of us blessed with the talent of A-rod, as well as having access to dieticians and strength coaches, we could produce a frame like that. If I had someone to plan my meals, have them cooked for me, as well as have a personal trainer to moniter my workout habits and make sure that I was not slacking off, I could look like that. I think in his case and some others, this may just be the case.

Of course, should it come out that he is using, this post will just make me look like an asshat, but for now, I choose to believe that there are some superstar players that are doing it the the way is used to be done, with hard work and determination, as well as a good diet.
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The point that strikes me is Jose writing a book and hyping it on accusing another player of being on the juice. That makes him a worthless POS in my book, whether the accusation is true or not.
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The point that strikes me is Jose writing a book and hyping it on accusing another player of being on the juice. That makes him a worthless POS in my book, whether the accusation is true or not.


I think that the reason that players have not sued for libel or slander or defamation of character for the simple reason that they do not want to give him any additional press.

He already gets enough publicity just for making accusations with loose allusions or no hard evidence (Joseph McCarthy ring a bell?). What is the tactful way to deny it without giving off the "methinks thou dost protest too much" vibe? Other than simply saying, "no comment".
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The point that strikes me is Jose writing a book and hyping it on accusing another player of being on the juice. That makes him a worthless POS in my book, whether the accusation is true or not.


Canseco is sleeze IMO. He is going after a big name. I don't blame A-Rod for saying No Comment. Why get into a media war with a Ex/Current Roid user out-of-baseball asshat like Jose.

I still believe in "Innocent until proven guilty." Since when did the criminal's word become so valueable?
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