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Old 08-28-2007, 10:22 PM   #16
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

Could it be that the very same Congress would perhaps debate over a Nationwide ban on smoking in public while trying to fund programs reliant upon 20,000% increases on the very product they look to outlaw public use?


"So, you want to fund a Federal program with massive tobacco taxes AND start a Federal ban on public use of those same products? Hell of a pickle there, Chief."


Congress is starting to play the part of Spalding (Caddyshack) pretty well lately with all of their "I want a" sessions. All that toe-stepping, and perhaps they'll "get nothing and like it!"

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Old 08-28-2007, 11:36 PM   #17
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

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So long as you have exemptions allowing smoking in Cigar Bars/Lounges I really don't see an issue with it...
That's one of the problems a lot of us face. In New York state you can no longer get a license to open a cigar bar. No new bars can get a smoking waiver.

More on track...God I wish Hillary would go away.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:06 AM   #18
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Im just hoping she doesnt get elected, then it doesnt matter
It still matters. She's still going to be a Senator, and has a significant amount of pull.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:35 AM   #19
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I would only have been surprised (and dubious) if she came out against smoking bans. this woman wants to take the healthcare and insurance industries and place them under government control. Which begs the question can ANY of you name any government program that is efficient, cost effective or accoplishes it's stated goal?

Goverment involvment = disaster and overspending = loss of liberty

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Old 08-29-2007, 08:51 AM   #20
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This is what I would expect from a bleeding heart liberal like Hillary. I just love how she pulls opinions out of her ass and acts like they are facts...

People were staying home because of smoke???

They have even more business now???

The last thing people that frequent bars are concerned with is their health.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:56 AM   #21
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The U.S. Coast Guard. Undermanned, Underfunded, Underappreciated and still saving lives.

Point taken, but that's despite congressional involvement. It has more to do with the caliber of those who serve than it does with the blow-hards in congress who think the sun doesn't rise without their approval. Which is more my point - government takes money from legitimate things they should be doing and waste it in areas they have no constitutional authority to be.

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Old 08-29-2007, 04:46 PM   #22
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

Fine with me, I don't mind what she says, she'll keep shooting her self in the foot and ruining her shot in the white house.

Heck I hope she takes even more foolish steps and alienaites her self more so.

Each person she pisses off is one less vote and as if she didn't do this she's already pissed off a ton of America.

With out going into the whole race over all, her being a woman *loosely* also is a huge shot in the foot for her. I'm not saying myself, but I can think of alot of people and polls out there that don't want a female pres, no matter her stance.

Honestly the dems could put out 2 shaven silverback apes and win with a land slide, but they at best are going to edge out a win...
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:53 PM   #23
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Switzerland has a good healthcare system. Insurance is cheaper as well as income taxes, so something must be working right...
something is working right because they have to pay like 70% in taxes every year.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:55 AM   #24
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something is working right because they have to pay like 70% in taxes every year.

In CH, it's closer to 13%; maybe you're thinking of Sweeden or Denmark?
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:16 PM   #25
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Just another reason not to vote for that battle-axe.
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What makes you think that she doesn't enjoy cigars the same way Monica does. After all, Bill isn't really known for his originality or creativity.

Wow that cigar better have one tough wrapper!!!
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

What happened to letting people make their own decision!
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

See, the thing that gets me is why impose "sin" taxes on things that politicians or their constituents don't like if eventually revenue from said tax will, if all goes according to plan (ie. getting people to smoke less/not at all), there will be no revenue for the tax in several years?

I am very considerate of where I smoke. I only smoke on my own property or in the relative privacy of my B&M, so smoking bans don't really bother me too much...it's this taxation bullflop that ticks me off. I'm all for fair taxation, and for health care, but come on, there has to be someone on capital hill that has the foresight to see that this is just a dumb idea no matter how you slice it!

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Old 09-20-2007, 12:46 AM   #29
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

This is definitely not a shock to me... expected no better.
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Re: Hillary Supports Nationwide Smoking Bans

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A nationwide ban is inevitable.
I agree.

Some quotes from Sen. Clinton:

“We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
June 2004

“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…. Government has to make those choices for people”
1993 regarding health care

“I certainly think the free-market has failed.”
June 2007

She's really not my type...
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