Democrats and the child health care bill

[uncballzer]

Originally Posted by c2000

If you can't afford your kids insurance then wear a jimmy cap from now on..


Jerry in Minnesota.

Heck, that's what I say about abortion. You knew the consequences when you had a d**k in you; now you got to live w/em.

[calistogey]

Originally Posted by Corona Gigante

Anyway, 45 House Republicans supported the bill and eight House Democrats opposed it, so it's not a completely partisan issue.

Never really understood how these people are able to hold on to their seats when their record reflects that they voted against their own parties. Perhaps each party leader should work more on solidifying their bases regardless of whether they risk losing a seat or not. In addition, voters should really pay close attention as to how their elected representatives are voting.

[12stones]

Originally Posted by calistogey

Never really understood how these people are able to hold on to their seats when their record reflects that they voted against their own parties. Perhaps each party leader should work more on solidifying their bases regardless of whether they risk losing a seat or not. In addition, voters should really pay close attention as to how their elected representatives are voting.

I don't care if they vote against their parties. It's when they vote against the wishes of the people that really pisses me off. The parties are completely about keeping their seats nowadays, so it's expected.

[JaKaAch]

Dems and Bush haters, repeat this as much as possible..
It's for the children.


If you tag this to any bill, law, regulation, etc... and you're against it, you must hate children.

Its what some call a wedge issue. You never talk about the details of said bill, law, regulation, you just pound on the wedge.

[Bax]

Originally Posted by JaKaAch

Dems and Bush haters, repeat this as much as possible..
It's for the children.


If you tag this to any bill, law, regulation, etc... and you're against it, you must hate children.

Its what some call a wedge issue. You never talk about the details of said bill, law, regulation, you just pound on the wedge.

Exactly!

[12stones]

Originally Posted by JaKaAch

Dems and Bush haters, repeat this as much as possible..
It's for the children.


If you tag this to any bill, law, regulation, etc... and you're against it, you must hate children.

Its what some call a wedge issue. You never talk about the details of said bill, law, regulation, you just pound on the wedge.

Here's an interesting article that starts out saying the same thing:
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/09/25/185410.php

[GOAT LOCKER]

Originally Posted by Bax

There is NO politician, and no person in fact who shouldn't support health care for children.

[SIZE="3"]Really?[/SIZE] Who's children should I support? I am already supporting my own and those of the "poor", now I gotta support someone else's? By the time I have put my daughter through college, I have no doubt I will be forced to support the children of people making more money than I do. America seems to have forgotten what personal responsibility is.

[12stones]

Originally Posted by GOAT LOCKER

[B][SIZE="3"]America seems to have forgotten what personal responsibility is.

Amen, brother!! You've hit it completely on the head!

[SeanGAR]

I think the idiots in power should quit stealing our money and pissing it away. If a parent isn't providing healthcare or food for their kids, the solution isn't stealing money from me to pay for their kids food or insurance, the solution is to sterilize the parents who can't support their kids, so they can't have more.

Idiots like Hillary and the "its for the children" hogswallop make me gag.

Whomever gets in power damned well have cutting taxes significantly on the agenda or I'm going to start my own grass roots tax revolt.

People who blame Democrats for pissing away money haven't been paying attention to the 456 billion and counting that we've pissed away "you know where". All politicians are political whores out to make a buck off of hard working taxpayers. Its high time for another tax revolt.

[SaltyMcGee]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

All politicians are political whores out to make a buck off of hard working taxpayers. Its high time for another tax revolt.

This is exactly right. Both parties are at fault here, but the partisan bickering that they get us to engage in masks the true problems. If we could just stop the petty Republican vs. Democrat crap we'd find we're not really all that far apart. Then the politicians would be nervous, because we could hold them all accountable.

[oddball]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

... All politicians are political whores out to make a buck off of hard working taxpayers. Its high time for another tax revolt.

+1000

The money I pay the govt. including federal and state income & withholding, along with property taxes, sales tax, etc. puts me on the shit end of the stick called "socialism" (more than 50%). And on top of that, the govt. is trying to systematically take things away from me, including cigars and firearms.

I am absolutely sick and tired of it.

[RETSF]

This is simply a stepping stone towards universal health care, as noted childern are getting older (age 25?). The minority will fund the program (smokers) so the majority of americans (non-smokers) wont complain if someone else is picking up the tab (taxing the minority). Unfortunately at some point the tobacco industry will be extinguished, the workers will be on welfare and unemployment but at least they have universal health care. So once the taxes paid to the federal Govt to support this program are diminished to the point that the 25 year old child cannot see the doctor what sin or non-green industry tax will be increased next: RV and SUV's? Beer, Sat/Cable TV, ammo and firearms. Yup the majority of american sheep will let the socialist congress increase selected segments of society to fund the "Universal heath care/C-hips programs"

[kvm]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Its high time for another tax revolt.

Amen brother.

[12stones]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

All politicians are political whores out to make a buck off of hard working taxpayers. Its high time for another tax revolt.

I completely agree with you, the problem is that we don't have the backing of the apathetic majority of American citizens.

[macjoe53]

You know, it's really a shame that politicians don't read this forum. If they did, maybe they would learn what we think.

Not that they would care...