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Old 09-30-2007, 03:35 PM   #46
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And the senate just passed the bill . . . Hopefully Bush wasn't lying and he'll veto it.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:47 PM   #47
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The purpose of this bill is to get more people dependent on the government for their health care.
And it won't stop with this bill or health care. The goal is for people to be dependant on entitlements for almost everything in their life.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:52 PM   #48
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And it won't stop with this bill or health care. The goal is for people to be dependent on entitlements for almost everything in their life.
True,

Liberalism is slavery. Dependency on government is servitude of the worst kind. It is a lie perpetrated to impoverish and create hopelessness and blame on people who have the ability and means to improve their lives, but refuse to do so. Nothing is so addictive like an excuse to fail. Liberalism is the means to an excuse to blame somebody else for their own folly and laziness. The ironic thing is the government isn't much better and once it's own folly and laziness is implemented, it is hard to rid yourself of it. Freedom surrendered is Freedom forever lost........

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Old 09-30-2007, 06:40 PM   #49
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...Hopefully Bush wasn't lying and he'll veto it.
Of course he will - which was my point. The bruhaha is for talking points, not legislation.
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

I'm sure they realize that they will be hurting this great passion of ours. Also, not to mention that they will be putting many B&M's out of business. Come on...who's going to pay $9.00 for a Padron Londres, if this gets passed!
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:51 PM   #51
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I'm sure they realize that they will be hurting this great passion of ours. Also, not to mention that they will be putting many B&M's out of business. Come on...who's going to pay $9.00 for a Padron Londres, if this gets passed!
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:44 PM   #52
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God is that true.....that or Lion fans.


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Old 10-01-2007, 06:53 AM   #53
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:02 PM   #54
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I mean where can I get a gig where I can be convicted of a crime, resign, and still receive a pension.
I'm pretty sure that most people who aren't law enforcement officials or military personal will still recieve thier pension after being convicted of a crime. Not take away from anything else you said however.......
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:59 PM   #55
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I'm pretty sure that most people who aren't law enforcement officials or military personal will still recieve thier pension after being convicted of a crime. Not take away from anything else you said however.......
guess I should have added that I pay into..
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

I think guaranteeing health care for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government: the United States is the only one of all the major industrialized countries not to do so. I think it's a far more legitimate use of government funds than huge subsidies to the energy, agricultural, pharmaceutical, and especially the “defense” industries. Just my $0.02.

Funding health care on a specific sales tax is a thoroughly pusillanimous, half-assed measure, but I wouldn’t celebrate too much if and when the President keeps his promise to veto this bill (as he undoubtedly will—“freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose”). The issue will be back again mid-2009 and with a Democratic President and Democratic majorities in both houses of congress, it’ll be guaranteed to pass. Hopefully by then, they'll have figured out a better way to fund it.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:10 PM   #57
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

Wow, I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but I just read this:

http://www.gov.state.md.us/pressreleases/071001.html

Apparently, states are bring a federal case against the President's power to veto this bill. ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME??????? Denying a fundamental point in the check and balance system this country was founded on? Anarchy anyone?
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

It's the liberal democrat way.

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Old 10-01-2007, 04:40 PM   #59
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

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I think guaranteeing health care for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
Let's not stop there! Government can help in every part of our life!

I think guaranteeing housing for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
I think guaranteeing nutritious meals for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
I think guaranteeing a satisfying, high paying job for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
I think guaranteeing college education for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
I think guaranteeing happiness for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government
I think guaranteeing fill in the blank for all its citizens is a legitimate function of government

Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to:

a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:30 PM   #60
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Re: Democrats and the child health care bill

Fear not guys.
If that felmale impersonator Hillary gets elected, she has it ALL figured out.

BTW, how many of us were alive 16 yrs ago and recall that healthcare platform and all the reform she was going to do if her hubby was elected?
Are we to have forgotten that by now so she can use it again as new news?

Oh, that's right. Not her fault. Darn Bush again! Has got to be his fault.
Been raining all day in Florida again. Been raining for a week or so now. Darn Bush!
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