Another tax from the Democraps

[pistol]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Freedom? You weren't free in 2002?

Oh Christ... I stayed out of it until this doozy of a comment. I think you know what he meant Sean. That whole incident where those planes crashed into the trade center/pentagon, remember that? I seem to remember how upset you were when your school was attacked; it hit a little close to home huh? How nice would it have been to be able to prevent that? How many resources would you have committed to preventing that attack? Do you think terrorists have just ceased their hatred for us? Don't you think they are trying to concoct new ways to attack us at this moment? Wouldn't you rather go after them before they come after us? We weren't in a war until 9-11, it seems to me that our freedom was threatened that day, and we reacted with violence. How many times have we been attacked since 9-11? Those terrorists continue to spew their anti-American rhetoric; they continue to encourage attacks on Americans, and yet, he we are, attack free since 9-11. Could better decisions have been made by our Leadership? Of course, hindsight is always 20-20 (trust me, I think we made some huge mistakes in Iraq starting with the deba'athification, but that's another story for another day). However, although our Middle Eastern policy has cost a lot in lives and money, the bottom line is we are safe over here. Our intelligence community is beefed up and on point. They've uncovered and foiled several terror plots (the Spaniards, Israelis, and Europeans haven't been as successful), and they continue to monitor those that would do us harm on a daily basis. We are finding more successes everyday in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The Iraqis are supporting us over there, and our success is evidenced by a lessening casualty count (both Coalition Forces and Iraqi civilian). Like it or not, we are there and this thing is going to take time and resources, but I truly believe in my heart that we are doing a good thing for the people of Iraq/Afghanistan as well as Americans.

[burninator]

Can't you people see it? The puns in thread titles are tearing this board apart!

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

There was also a cost for freedom in 2002, and in years preceding that. Maintaining an army, air force, marines, coast guard, and navy are the costs of freedom. Those costs remain in maintenance, training, equipping, and retirement, even when those forces are not actively being used in any conflict.

Don't forget that when the Coast Guard isn't participating in a war they are doing other things for the taxpayers - like saving lives, cleaning up oil spills, etc.

[Fenwick]

Ring gague comment from someone named XYZ:

don't participate in these threads if you have nothing constructive to add.

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Go back and look at all my posts in this thread and you'll see you are wrong.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Ring gague comment from someone named XYZ:



That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Go back and look at all my posts in this thread and you'll see you are wrong.

Please keep RG adjustments and comments private.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Ring gague comment from someone named XYZ:



That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Go back and look at all my posts in this thread and you'll see you are wrong.

Public display of RG comments and PMs is not permitted here w/o the sender's permission. Please refrain in the future.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by AAlmeter

And to whoever the hell asked for the mods to step in....Christ, seek help. If you encourage that with some, next thing you know every non-cigar discussion on here will be limited to what toppings we like on our pancakes on the day after a herf with a select group of people.

Maple Syrup, Adam...for the record.

[Bigwaved]

Is gague some sort of spin off brand of pasta sauce?

[AAlmeter]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Maple Syrup, Adam...for the record.

Hey, I got new boot laces!

[Bigwaved]

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Ring gague comment from someone named XYZ:



That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Go back and look at all my posts in this thread and you'll see you are wrong.

I did what you requested.

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Exactly! The war is actually only costing a fraction of what the alarmists like coronagigante would like you to believe.

I personally like not having buildings on our home turf being blown up anymore. Has anyone noticed how ever since we invaded Iraq, we haven't had any more terrorist attacks here? As far as I'm concerned, the "war" is worth every penny we're paying for it and a very small price to pay so that no more innocent civilians here have to die like they did on September 11, 2001.

What the ignorant whiny liberals refuse to understand is there are absolute nut job extremists who are literally insane who want to kill Americans and they will stop at nothing to do this. Their sick culture glorifies martyrdom and there's nothing we can do about it except fight back until those stupid ignorant excuses for human beings are either annihilated or come to their senses and give up. My guess is the former but we can't give up until one of those two things come true.

Let me ask you this coronagigante and the rest of you liberals, would you rather have them shooting at pedestrians and blowing up cars in Houston or Baghdad?

We're kicking their sorry asses all over the place over there and we're winning this war, plain and simple. Just ask anyone who's actually over there instead of listening to the filtered media and the pathetic anti-wars losers here who have no idea what they're talking about.

Like him or not, President Bush is doing an outstanding job and our armed forces are the best in the world, no doubt about it.

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Too funny!

Watch out, the democrats.org spiders will find your post and make you one of theirs!

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Well in case you forgot, they did try to blow up the World Trade Center with bombs in the basement in February of 1993.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing

Who was the president then and what did he do about it?

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Just let it go nicky and please do us all a favor and resist your urge to continue to troll for trouble.

Everyone here already has your number so there's no need for you to continue to confirm what we all already know about you.

Originally Posted by Fenwick

What does whether or not I post my personal information have to do with anything? Please enlighten us.

Originally Posted by Fenwick

Ring gague comment from someone named XYZ:



That's a pretty ignorant thing to say. Go back and look at all my posts in this thread and you'll see you are wrong.

Maybe the things I highlighted are examples of what that person may have been getting at. I don't know.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by AAlmeter

Hey, I got new boot laces!

I got a brand new pair of rollerskates.....you got a brand new key?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

I got a brand new pair of rollerskates.....you got a brand new key?

Melanie? Is that you?

[taltos]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Melanie? Is that you?

I can't keep my candle lit in the rain to tell.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by pistol

Oh Christ... I stayed out of it until this doozy of a comment. I think you know what he meant Sean. That whole incident where those planes crashed into the trade center/pentagon, remember that? I seem to remember how upset you were when your school was attacked; it hit a little close to home huh? How nice would it have been to be able to prevent that?

What does Iraq have to do with 911? You understand I have no problem whatsoever with the invasion of Afghanistan. Taliban protected Bin Laden. Bin laden attacked us. Screw them.

I agree that we need to spend money and improve intelligence to ensure these idiots like BinLaden can't attack us again, but the road to 911 started in Riyadh, not Baghdad.

Saying the war in Iraq is/was needed to ensure our freedom or safety is ridiculous. Saddam was no threat. Saddam had nothing to do with 911. Attacking Iraq did and will not make us more secure here, that should be abundantly clear. So then, what are we getting for the half trillion we're spending in Iraq? Seriously ... what are we getting? If that was spend on cancer research how many American lives would be saved per year? Five hundred billion is not a trivial amount. More Americans have been killed in Iraq than on 911. Their lives should not be squandered by our leaders as if they're playing a drunken game of Risk at a frat party.

As far as the murders at VT are concerned, some of these killings at VT might have been prevented had the police and administration here used their damned brains, and not been arrogant know-it-all assholes. This has nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq or 911 and frankly I can see no reason for you bringing this up. A lady 2 offices down has no husband and her 3 kids have no father because a crazy man killed him when he went to investigate the shots. Tell me what the hell does this have to do with a deliberate invasion of Iraq? What does this have to do with 911, other than to acknowledge the value of hindsight when discussing "what ifs". You realize Al Queda was NOT in Iraq before out invasion, right?

[pnoon]

In order to prevent any further degradation of the harmony in CS, I am closing this thread. Besides, it has nothing to do with tobacco legislation and, as with virtually all political discussions, it has turned ugly.