Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

[stig]

Originally Posted by Andyman

I don't see any difference here... If they can ban one they can ban smoking in your own house..

I don't smoke in my house.. However I wouldn't support a bill that would ban it either..

I wouldn't support that bill either but it's a bit different than smoking in your car with your kids. In a house kids have their own room and many people that I know who smoke cigars either smoke in just one room or don't smoke inside at all such as myself. However, if it's legal and I am doing it in the privacy of my own home, which I own then I will do whatever I want to. Keep in mind that if I smoked inmy home I wouldn't smoke in the same room that my kids are in, in fact even if I smoke out on my back deck I try and keep my kids away until I am done with my cigar because I don't want them to be subject to the second hand smoke. In the end it all comes down to people acting responsibly. If everyone did this already then there wouldn't be people trying to make all these laws. Not that I agree with them.

[12stones]

The root of the problem here is the degradation of our personal choices. Yes, it's stupid for a parent to smoke in an enclosed car with their young children; however, when it becomes a law that takes the choice of any action away from you, then it's a limitation to our personal freedoms.

Everyone can continue to say, "well, this one's alright cause it's for the kids" and "this one's okay because it doesn't really affect me" but someday, and yes it is coming, all of us are going to wake up and wonder when we were no longer truly free. I blame stupid parents and apathetic people for this legislation.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by stig

In the end it all comes down to people acting responsibly. If everyone did this already then there wouldn't be people trying to make all these laws.

100%

This is like McDonalds having to put a "hey, genius, the piping hot coffee you just bought from us might be kinda warm" disclaimer on their coffee cups. Some people are complete idiots.

If you're smoking in your car with the windows rolled up and a kid in there, you should be taken in for endangering the welfare of a child, not just written a ticket.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

I would also like to require a test be passed before idiots can breed more idiots, and state sterilization or birth control before dim bulbs can procreate.

Well, thats what I think too.

I disagree with laws that restrict personal freedom for the most part, but if people are endangering their kids then I think we need to act. SHS in kids is associated with increased risk of asthma; I think these studies are pretty solid.

[Darrell]

He did not say you could not smoke joints or bongs, some of you're still OK.

I kid, I kid.

[j6ppc]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Well, thats what I think too.

I disagree with laws that restrict personal freedom for the most part, but if people are endangering their kids then I think we need to act. SHS in kids is associated with increased risk of asthma; I think these studies are pretty solid.

I have to agree with this. Exposing our kids to second hand smoke is just plain stupid and the only sad part of this is that what should be plain ond fashioned common sense needs to be legislated 'cos some asshat or other did not get the memo.

[croatan]

What if you own a convertible?

In my opinion, any legislation of this sort is overreaching and a bad thing.

[smokinpoke]

what about a 78 camaro with t-tops.

[jaycarla]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

unfortunately, it's a slippery slope from your car to your house.



To your property.

EXACTLY!!

Light up a smoke in a car with ANYONE that doesn't smoke and you are approaching needing a timeout, but a law.

I'll stop now.

[BigFrankMD]

Originally Posted by 12stones

The root of the problem here is the degradation of our personal choices. Yes, it's stupid for a parent to smoke in an enclosed car with their young children; however, when it becomes a law that takes the choice of any action away from you, then it's a limitation to our personal freedoms.

Everyone can continue to say, "well, this one's alright cause it's for the kids" and "this one's okay because it doesn't really affect me" but someday, and yes it is coming, all of us are going to wake up and wonder when we were no longer truly free. I blame stupid parents and apathetic people for this legislation.

My thoughts exactly. Creeping incrementalism.

[Perry72]

Why the hell would anyone wanna smoke with kids in the car. What kind of sick bastard would it take to do that?

Anywho, if I read this correct, and if i'm wrong please correct me, the law is for smoking with kids in the car. I'm not sure if this means you can smoke in your car if your by yourself or not. If this is the case, i'm all for it. Your rights are only legit if they don't infringe on someone elses rights to life, liberty and the pursuit. If your smoking with some young kids in the car, convertible or not, your stepping all over there rights to life and not breathing in the smoke thats gonna find its way to the back seat one way or another. That makes your rights void. That's just the way I see it, and not meant to upset anyone. If this law means you cant smoke in your car when your alone, or when you have other consenting adults riding along, I don't agree with that at all.

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[Deriffe]

Originally Posted by Andyman

I agree - kids, small enclosed space, smoke = Bad..

But what if the Gov. comes and tells you you cannot give your kids soda.. it's bad, causes hyper activity Etc..

Where do we draw the line?

We don't. We allow the government to slowly nickle and dime our liberty away by passing laws that slowly turn us into a complete nanny state. I don't smoke with my kids in my car either. I don't smoke when I eat either. But now, I can't sit in a bar in most states and have a beer and a cigar because somebody decided I was too stupid to make my own decisions and take responsibility for my own actions.

Before I die, it will be legal to smoke pot and illegal to smoke a cigarette. Before I die, it will be illegal to eat more than two Big Mac's in the same week.

But, THIS law isn't all that bad right?

[SeanGAR]

I hate the thought of a nanny state and more laws as much as anybody, but good laws protect the weakest among us (cf kids).

[dls]

I just thought I'd chime in here, my father used to smoke while I was in the truck with him, but he made sure to keep the cigarette out the window, and blow all of the smoke out the window. So far so good, no ill effects.

[Budprince]

Originally Posted by ResIpsa

Arnold isn't responsible for this ban, The CA legislature is. Blame them.

As Governor he could have exercised his veto power. . . he IS complicit in this ban. Arnold is a social liberal, this decision doesn't surprise me in the least. This is the Nanny state at its worst!