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Old 10-11-2007, 10:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

can't wait till the papparazzi catch him with a huge churchill while shuttling the kids around.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

one step closer to total government control...
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Arnold isn't responsible for this ban, The CA legislature is. Blame them.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

ahhh. California.




The Granola state....











full of Fruits, Nuts, and Flakes.


One more reason I would never want to live there, and I don't typically smoke in the car with my 15 year old, anyway. It's the principle of the thing.

Visiting there, yeah maybe.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ahhh. California......Visiting there, yeah maybe.
I would be afraid to visit. I would end up spending all my vacation money on citations.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:14 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ahhh. California.




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full of Fruits, Nuts, and Flakes.


One more reason I would never want to live there, and I don't typically smoke in the car with my 15 year old, anyway. It's the principle of the thing.

Visiting there, yeah maybe.
talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!! land of 10,000 "flakes" and I am not speaking of snowflakes
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

They're not saying don't smoke in your car, they're saying don't smoke in your car if there are also kids in your car which IMHO is not a bad thing. I don't smoke with my kids in the car anyway so this is not something that I see as a loss of freedom. Get over it, move on.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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They're not saying don't smoke in your car, they're saying don't smoke in your car if there are also kids in your car which IMHO is not a bad thing. I don't smoke with my kids in the car anyway so this is not something that I see as a loss of freedom. Get over it, move on.
unfortunately, it's a slippery slope from your car to your house.



To your property.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

I'll probably get ostracized for this but I don't think there is anything wrong with this. In fact, I applaud this ban. I can't tell you how many times I've seen windows rolled up and parents smoking while their kids are sitting in the back. It makes me sick and isn't fair to the kids.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll probably get ostracized for this but I don't think there is anything wrong with this. In fact, I applaud this ban. I can't tell you how many times I've seen windows rolled up and parents smoking while their kids are sitting in the back. It makes me sick and isn't fair to the kids.

Damn straight. Why should kids suffer because of the stupidity or indifference of their parents? This law was passed because of stupid people smoking with their kids in the car and windows rolled up, which I see all the time around here.
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They're not saying don't smoke in your car, they're saying don't smoke in your car if there are also kids in your car which IMHO is not a bad thing. I don't smoke with my kids in the car anyway so this is not something that I see as a loss of freedom. Get over it, move on.
I agree - kids, small enclosed space, smoke = Bad..

But what if the Gov. comes and tells you you cannot give your kids soda.. it's bad, causes hyper activity Etc..

Where do we draw the line?
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

Kids can legally have soda they can't legally smoke cigs/cigars. By placing a child in an enclosed area and exposing them to smoke they are essentially smoking.

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I agree - kids, small enclosed space, smoke = Bad..

But what if the Gov. comes and tells you you cannot give your kids soda.. it's bad, causes hyper activity Etc..

Where do we draw the line?
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unfortunately, it's a slippery slope from your car to your house.



To your property.
I don't see any difference here... If they can ban one they can ban smoking in your own house..

I don't smoke in my house.. However I wouldn't support a bill that would ban it either..
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Re: Schwarzenegger Bans Smoking with Kids in Cars

there is a point where stupid things must be allowed. Legislating to the lowest common denominator is simply a factor of the increasing nanny state. Deplorable.



I would, however support the laudable actions of being able to walk up to some moron and say "Hey, you dumb piece of dung, put seatbelts on the kids and put those cigarettes out."



I would also like to require a test be passed before idiots can breed more idiots, and state sterilization or birth control before dim bulbs can procreate.

I also realize that perhaps isn't an option.
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