Dump the Cuban Embargo

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Lanthor

Damn, can I PM you for a source when these come out?

Mmmmm, Icehoganudos with a couple years on them!!

The 'hoganudos will be available at a Piggly Wiggly near you when the embargo ends.

[adsantos13]

Originally Posted by icehog3

The novelty of Cuba's next line, the Icehoganudos, will never wear off.

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[tecnorobo]

Originally Posted by icehog3

The 'hoganudos will be available at a Piggly Wiggly near you when the embargo ends.

i hope they have that special lingering stoli taste, and the all too familiar odor of sweaty hockey jersey. Mmmmm. what a blend

[burninator]

Originally Posted by icehog3

The 'hoganudos will be available at a Piggly Wiggly near you when the embargo ends.

I won't buy them unless each one has at least 6 bands.

[Navydoc]

Originally Posted by DoctaJ

Until Castro dies, I don't expect the embargo to be lifted. This fact has more to do with the stubbornness of the American government and, as the article mentioned, the Cuban-American vote. Castro's brother, who is next in line, has openly stated he wants to have more open borders. I also wouldn't be surprised if there was an internal peaceful military takeover of Cuba after Castro dies.

The thought that I have is how the cigar industry will look after Cuba's borders are open. The market would change dramatically I would think with the now legal influx of Cuban cigars to the American market.

So two thoughts on your comments:

1/. As far as I recall it was the Cuban military that put Castro in power in the first place. It's been the Cuban military that has kept Castro in power and will continue to be in power when Fiedel dies.

2/. Don't look for a large influx of Cuban cigars to hit the US market when the embargo is lifted. I believe you will see a controlled influx via several well placed LcDH's. This would allow Cuba to ramp up production in a controlled manner as well as allowing time for the Non-Cuban brands to adjust. There's too much money at stake for the NC market to just "cave in"

As usuall my

[Lanthor]

Originally Posted by Navydoc

2/. I believe you will see a controlled influx via several well placed LcDH's. This would allow Cuba to ramp up production in a controlled manner as well as allowing time for the Non-Cuban brands to adjust. There's too much money at stake for the NC market to just "cave in"

I hope/think you are right. I have to remind myself that the ROW has access to CC's, doubtful adding the US market, while large, will overwhelm them that much (hell I think some people around here get them regardless).

And I don't think I have a Piggly Wiggly nearby.

[muziq]

Originally Posted by Lanthor

(hell I think some people around here get them regardless).

Hey now, don't go callin' some of us lawbreakers....

[Lanthor]

Originally Posted by muziq

Hey now, don't go callin' some of us lawbreakers....

Purely speculation on my part fine Sir...

[floydpink]

I'll be optimistic about this as soon as I see one indication that our govmernment is willing to admit one of their policies has failed.

Don't hold your breath.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Navydoc

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Don't look for a large influx of Cuban cigars to hit the US market when the embargo is lifted. I believe you will see a controlled influx via several well placed LcDH's. This would allow Cuba to ramp up production in a controlled manner as well as allowing time for the Non-Cuban brands to adjust. There's too much money at stake for the NC market to just "cave in"

I agree that I doubt we'll see a huge influx of cigar directly from Cuba, and perhaps the LCDH franchises may have already been bought for key US cities. The only cigars will see coming to the US in the short term would be from parallel markets, not directly from Cuba.

Cuba may be forced to create US friendly brands that do not violate trademarks. This is all so far away and ethereal, that no one should lose sleep over this.

[Smoked]

I kind of like things the way that they are now. I can get Cuban cigars very easily with very little risk. The prices aren't bad and the quality of the cigars is good. With all of the speculation about what will happen to the prices and quality if the Embargo is lifted, I say why mess with a good thing.

[GOAT LOCKER]

Originally Posted by Smoked

I kind of like things the way that they are now. I can get Cuban cigars very easily with very little risk. The prices aren't bad and the quality of the cigars is good. With all of the speculation about what will happen to the prices and quality if the Embargo is lifted, I say why mess with a good thing.

I would gladly give up my access to cheap cigars to give the Cuban people freedom from an oppressive government. I'm sure it was not your intention to put your access to cheap, high quality cigars above the interests of the people of Cuba, but it sounds that way. In the big picture, cigars are pretty small compared to the issues they face.

Fortunately for us, the embargo has been very effective, in as much as Cuba is unable to build a strong military and thus far has failed to export their revolution. Not that they have not tried.

Unfortunately for the Cuban people, they are paying a high price for the security of the Caribbean.

It's not going to be a matter of "dumping" the embargo. We will eventually negotiate an end that will require certain actions by Cuba. Hopefully we will ensure the Cuban people benefit, and not just the rich and powerful.

[Smoked]

Originally Posted by GOAT LOCKER

I would gladly give up my access to cheap cigars to give the Cuban people freedom from an oppressive government. I'm sure it was not your intention to put your access to cheap, high quality cigars above the interests of the people of Cuba, but it sounds that way. In the big picture, cigars are pretty small compared to the issues they face.

Fortunately for us, the embargo has been very effective, in as much as Cuba is unable to build a strong military and thus far has failed to export their revolution. Not that they have not tried.

Unfortunately for the Cuban people, they are paying a high price for the security of the Caribbean.

It's not going to be a matter of "dumping" the embargo. We will eventually negotiate an end that will require certain actions by Cuba. Hopefully we will ensure the Cuban people benefit, and not just the rich and powerful.

I actually don't know much about the people of Cuba so no it was not my intention.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by tecnorobo

i hope they have that special lingering stoli taste, and the all too familiar odor of sweaty hockey jersey. Mmmmm. what a blend

Like Heaven on Earth.

Originally Posted by burninator

I won't buy them unless each one has at least 6 bands.

5 for fightin'?

Originally Posted by Lanthor

I hope/think you are right. I have to remind myself that the ROW has access to CC's, doubtful adding the US market, while large, will overwhelm them that much (hell I think some people around here get them regardless).

And I don't think I have a Piggly Wiggly nearby.

Walgreens?

[ScottishSmoker]

I still think that the embargo will be in place regardless of Castro's death or not...the embargo will not be lifted until Communism disappears in Cuba. A military coup would have to occur, jusst like it did putting Castro in power, or a total bankruptcy of the Cuban economic system happens. That is not something likely too happen any day soon. As far as the cigars flooding our NC market, I do not see that happening either. At first the novelty will be there but like any other fad, it too will pass by the wayside. If and should the CC's be available in the U.S., I hope a few LcDHs pop-up just to help in the regulation of quality standards of this product. Ramping up to meet the necessary quantity to satisfy the largest tobacco consuming market in the world is not something that will be able to be achieved for a long while. Cuba does need our financial help in the long run, but as of right now, Castro and his people are holding on to their Commie (if they were allowed to vote, I bet they would vote Democrat) ways and that will make it impossible to lift the embargo.