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land of the free?

This is a discussion on land of the free? within the Tobacco Legislation forums, part of the The Cigar Lounges at Puff category; Originally Posted by Mark C I like the idea of a viable 3rd party, but until it becomes anywhere close ...

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Old 02-02-2008, 12:36 PM   #31
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I like the idea of a viable 3rd party, but until it becomes anywhere close to a reality, I'll stick to choosing the lesser of two evils.
I'm all for change, but gradually pissing away a vote for the next hundred years isn't going to cut it. Something big needs to happen. I don't know what that is, or how to make it happen, but I don't believe the current 3rd party approach is the right one.

In my humble opinion, it is this type of attitude that guarantees the continuation of the status quo bullshit. How are you pissing away your vote? I think you are pissing away your vote MORE by buying into the lie of the 2 party system and the whole "lesser of 2 evils" idea. I make my vote count by voting against BOTH evils. Every time.
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Old 02-02-2008, 01:21 PM   #32
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Every year more laws, more bans, more control. Firearms is also a big interest of mine. You've constantly got some slimey politician after your guns. We live in a society now that grants criminals more rights that law abiding citizens. Everybody think they can sure everybody for discrimination, negligence, or anything as long as it's not their fault. Nobody is held accountable for anything. The justice system is a joke all together. Free country where you are taxed for everything from every angle. The state of North Carolina is one of the biggest taxation states I know of. Taxes and fee's at every turn. My wife and I bought 2 new vehicles in Florida, and had to pay NC sales tax, now how the hell does that work. We pay one of the highest gas taxes in the country, income tax, vehicle and property tax, sales tax, fee's out the ass for BS like inspection. You never "own" anything. Work your whole life to pay off your home and your property, but you're taxed eternaly and the government will steal your stuff if you don't pay the tax. Our country is sowly working it's way into it's own demise. We have our troops scattered all over the world, forcing our ways on the middle east. Those people hate us, they don't care for our way of life, so why should we waste our troops lives and tax money on them when they would just as soon stab us in the back. You can also thank that crap for oil prices going through the roof. We're slowly turning all these other powerful nations against us and while it's true we have a strong army, we can't fight the world and I hate to say, but piss off China, Russia, or their allies and they'll roll in here and royaly kick us in the ass. They both have the shear numbers in man power alone to put a serious hurting on us. We've messed around and allowed more tha half of our jobs to go over seas, China pratically owns the US finacially. I may just be "over ranting", but personally, I've been looking elsewhere for a place to live.
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Been looking at other places to live (retire).
Belize is looking good.
Do they grow tobacco there?
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I was eyeballing something in the central america / carribean, or maybe even Austrailia or New Zealand. Hardly ever hear much about those places. Hell, maybe even Cuba....lol, in 20 years that what this place will most likely be like anyway.
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I don't really pay much attention to the elections because I am not allowed to vote. However, this Ron Paul guy seems like the best candidate that I have ever seen. It's a shame that he doesn't stand a chance.
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I just scanned over the titles of the threads in this section, the first thing that poped into my mind was what the heck is happening to our freedoms. Democrat, Republican I wouldn't give a plug nickel for any of these crooks. Someday all americans are going to wake up and have a realization that we now live in the book "1984" and we will have nobody to blame but ourselves.
the only group i can say that believes in personal freedom has and is conservatives. we the few, meaning anybody how believes in personal liberty, see these sheeple who follow blindly and vomit. these politicans have become complacent with us the people and have made more power for themselves. they target certain sub groups that they can extort money out because they say its for the whole, its blatent communism. we in a sense are not the America of our parents or grandparents America. we got to stop voting these hacks in for office that stand for nothing with a fluffy speech or those will tax us to death.
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