WHO: 1 Billion killed from Tobacco by 2100

[doctorcue]

I read this and it iritates me. Not necessarily the medical numbers (because I believe those, to an extent); but the elimination of choice by this board. Are they banning McDonalds & CO2 cars also?

WHO article

[SmokeyJoe]

Amazing... just read an article that stated that by the year 2015, the number of people over the age of 85 in the United States will rise an astonishing 73%.

How can they have it both ways? We are living to be 100, but tobacco is killing us all? Rampant nannyism and socialist arrogance. My

[boonedoggle]

Yep, this is where smoking bans are spawned from.

[kjjm4]

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

Amazing... just read an article that stated that by the year 2015, the number of people over the age of 85 in the United States will rise an astonishing 73%.

How can they have it both ways? We are living to be 100, but tobacco is killing us all? Rampant nannyism and socialist arrogance. My

They probably count you as a death attributable to smoking if you smoked for ten years in your 20s and died of lung disease 60-70 years later.

[mdtaggart]

The W.H.O. should be fighting disease and starvation in poor countries.

[Troop_lee]

I am sick of this BS, really just over it. It's my choice, why should any government or agency tell me that I can't use tobacco.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by mdtaggart

The W.H.O. should be fighting disease and starvation in poor countries.

How far they have fallen. Still love their songs though...


Out here in the fields
I fought for my meals
I get my back into my living
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven

Don't cry
Don't raise your eye
It's only teenage wasteland

Sally, take my hand
Travel south crossland
Put out the fire
And don't look past my shoulder

The exodus is here
The happy ones are near
Let's get together
Before we get much older

Teenage wasteland
It's only teenage wasteland
Teenage wasteland, oh yeah
Teenage wasteland
They're all wasted

[mdtaggart]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

How far they have fallen. Still love their songs though...


Out here in the fields
I fought for my meals
I get my back into my living
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven

Don't cry
Don't raise your eye
It's only teenage wasteland

Sally, take my hand
Travel south crossland
Put out the fire
And don't look past my shoulder

The exodus is here
The happy ones are near
Let's get together
Before we get much older

Teenage wasteland
It's only teenage wasteland
Teenage wasteland, oh yeah
Teenage wasteland
They're all wasted

I use to crank it up loud on my eight track tape player.

[M1903A1]

"Can you see the real me, doctor..DOCTOR!!! "

[Thillium]

I hope to be the 1 Billionth person killed then.

[tzaddi]

Originally Posted by mdtaggart

I use to crank it up loud on my eight track tape player.

Yes, the good old 8-track, I had me a good selection of tunes using that media... I believe Santana Abraxas was my first 8-track acquisition

...speaking of history...one need look no farther than the history of tobacco during it's European introduction to see that such miopic perceptions and the resulting persecution are nothing new.

[c2000]

Sounds like a good round number and now just keep repeating that number until everyone blindly accepts it.. Just like the 49,000 second hand smoke deaths a year in this country,, a few years ago it was 24000 but that didn't sound high enough so the number was raised to 49,,must have been that 50000 would have sounded manufactured..

Jerry in Minnesota.

[K Baz]

1 billion killed by 2100?

I don't know when man started smoking tobacco but if you assume man was around 7 to 8 million years ago and mankind started then this number looks okay.

Maybe 18 per century?

Either bad headline or I have nothing to worry about.

[tzaddi]

Originally Posted by K Baz

1 billion killed by 2100?

I don't know when man started smoking tobacco but if you assume man was around 7 to 8 million years ago and mankind started then this number looks okay.

Maybe 18 per century?

Either bad headline or I have nothing to worry about.

According to my studies tobacco has been cultivated and smoked in the Americas for at least 5000 years, originating in the Peruvian and Ecuadorian Andes. I am confident that it's use goes back even further. That is not to discount the distribution networks that make it available to so many more people on the planet today.

What I am trying to point out is that tobacco and it's use have been around much longer than any of the current political-cultural systems and will more than likely survive the present assault on it's botanical right to exist.

Who wants seeds?

[horrorview]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

How far they have fallen. Still love their songs though...


Out here in the fields
I fought for my meals
I get my back into my living
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven

Don't cry
Don't raise your eye
It's only teenage wasteland

Sally, take my hand
Travel south crossland
Put out the fire
And don't look past my shoulder

The exodus is here
The happy ones are near
Let's get together
Before we get much older

Teenage wasteland
It's only teenage wasteland
Teenage wasteland, oh yeah
Teenage wasteland
They're all wasted

Yeah, once Moon died, they just went down hill.