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Old 10-11-2008, 05:05 PM   #31
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The fourth comment down. WTF??
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:20 PM   #32
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I say we all get together and pool our money to buy a huge piece of land (like Rhode Island) and smoke in freedom. Maybe Jon Caputo can financially back us
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:37 PM   #33
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I say we all get together and pool our money to buy a huge piece of land (like Rhode Island) and smoke in freedom. Maybe Jon Caputo can financially back us
Well, they only paid $14 for Manhattan so I'm thinking that Rhode Island can't be too much more!

I'm kidding, I love RI!
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:03 PM   #34
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We are becoming the new Soviet Union and the general public doesn't see it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:03 PM   #35
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It just passed. I hate this state!!!!!!!

http://wbztv.com/local/cigar.bar.ban.2.885091.html
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Re: BOSTON: No more cigar bars?!?!

Well Mass. is one of the most staunchly liberal states in the Union. You can still own fire arms in that state, for now anyway. ( I think, unless Barney Frank changed that, I'm not sure, but I think it is illegal to purchase ammunition in that state)

Someone posted about the New Soviet Union, I have to agree with that. We've started down the road of state run industries i.e. The Wall Street Bail-out, and now begging for your attention, and your precious tax dollars, the dysfunctional and totally flawed, completely inept U.S. Auto Industry.

With the liberals now in power expect to have Universal Health Care vying for what's left of your precious tax dollars too.

Good news is if that happens we will almost be Canada, maybe we can finally enjoy Cubans?

Seems to me that sometime in history, there was this young community that craved Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. So much so they went to war for it. Unwilling to accept the yoke of unfair taxation and a government that insisted that they only believed in what they; the government, said they had to believe in and practice.

So crystalized and pure their vision, that against impossible odds they prevailed.

Oh that's what is was the Revolutionary War. You know, the one that birthed a nation destined to be the supreme power on the globe.
Seems that chapter in our storied history has all but vanished. Relegated to some dark recess of the public conciousness. A secrative place that no one dare speak of anymore. Emasculated and Banished lest the balance of power be shifted back to the people, where it rightfully belongs.

The words spoken in those days would likely mean instant ruin in today's society. Absolute ostracsisation for merely thinking of freedom. (And more likely lenghty Federal time for Sedition) You know we must be PC these day's and all. Absolutely we must feel guilty for the bounty that this nation has fought and died for to create. A continual begging and pleading of forgiveness from the rest of the world for our success. A constant state of self flaggelation, guilt and compromise of Sovereignty just to appease the world stage!

Wake the F@#$ up America, grow some stones again lest what remains of this vision be gone forever. A mere punctuation mark at the end of civilized history. A mere shadow of what we were, and what will never be again.

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Thats on the ballot for NEXT year.

I propose a Smoke Out on the Common!!!

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Old 12-11-2008, 11:26 PM   #38
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If you are not already members you should consider joining the NRA today. It's the only organization I know of that fights for our freedoms today, and has been doing so for over a hundred years.

Patron Member, myself.
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Well Mass. is one of the most staunchly liberal states in the Union. You can still own fire arms in that state, for now anyway. ( I think, unless Barney Frank changed that, I'm not sure, but I think it is illegal to purchase ammunition in that state)

Someone posted about the New Soviet Union, I have to agree with that. We've started down the road of state run industries i.e. The Wall Street Bail-out, and now begging for your attention, and your precious tax dollars, the dysfunctional and totally flawed, completely inept U.S. Auto Industry.

With the liberals now in power expect to have Universal Health Care vying for what's left of your precious tax dollars too.

Good news is if that happens we will almost be Canada, maybe we can finally enjoy Cubans?

Seems to me that sometime in history, there was this young community that craved Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. So much so they went to war for it. Unwilling to accept the yoke of unfair taxation and a government that insisted that they only believed in what they; the government, said they had to believe in and practice.

So crystalized and pure their vision, that against impossible odds they prevailed.

Oh that's what is was the Revolutionary War. You know, the one that birthed a nation destined to be the supreme power on the globe.
Seems that chapter in our storied history has all but vanished. Relegated to some dark recess of the public conciousness. A secrative place that no one dare speak of anymore. Emasculated and Banished lest the balance of power be shifted back to the people, where it rightfully belongs.

The words spoken in those days would likely mean instant ruin in today's society. Absolute ostracsisation for merely thinking of freedom. (And more likely lenghty Federal time for Sedition) You know we must be PC these day's and all. Absolutely we must feel guilty for the bounty that this nation has fought and died for to create. A continual begging and pleading of forgiveness from the rest of the world for our success. A constant state of self flaggelation, guilt and compromise of Sovereignty just to appease the world stage!

Wake the F@#$ up America, grow some stones again lest what remains of this vision be gone forever. A mere punctuation mark at the end of civilized history. A mere shadow of what we were, and what will never be again.

Just my oN smoking Bans!

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Funny timing that this gets posted today considering my post yesterday. This is similar to what happened in Vancouver a couple of years ago. I would like to start a club where everyone is a "member" and can let themselves in, and where employees are all "owners" of some sort so the regulations that govern employees can be avoided.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:51 AM   #41
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Re: BOSTON: No more cigar bars?!?!

The pussification of America, ladies and gents. I am embarrassed to be from MA. We are going to tell people they can't make the decision whether or not they can smoke, but they can vote on a whim?

Also, this comes on the heels of MA loosening up on the Marijuana laws. I hate liberals.
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Re: BOSTON: No more cigar bars?!?!

MA is just ahead of everyone else. Unfortunately, smoking is going to be banned nation-wide, just wait. It's a sad day in the Bay State. 2 Hookah bars just opened within 2 blocks of each other in my neighborhood. I doubt they would've lasted 10 years either way, but nothing like putting a nail in their coffin. Boston has some of the oldest cigar shops in North America, as well being the center of the American Revolution.

I've reiterated on this site several times how America is the most conservative western nation. The only real freedom is to make a buck. It's the easiest nation to make a living in, but other than that, just about anywhere in Europe is much more free than USA.

If we were really concerned about health and healthcare in the USA, we would be recreational sports. Recreational sports counts for a hell lot more dollars spent in care than smoking ever will. Think of many millions suffer injuries and even death every year due to sports. These do-gooders try use statistics to validate the prohibition of tobacco... well that same method should abolish any and all sports played.

Do I think we should ban sports? No, just showing the failed "bigger picture". Such a crock. Worried about Big Brother? He's been watching us for a long time...
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MA is just ahead of everyone else. Unfortunately, smoking is going to be banned nation-wide, just wait. It's a sad day in the Bay State. 2 Hookah bars just opened within 2 blocks of each other in my neighborhood. I doubt they would've lasted 10 years either way, but nothing like putting a nail in their coffin. Boston has some of the oldest cigar shops in North America, as well being the center of the American Revolution.

I've reiterated on this site several times how America is the most conservative western nation. The only real freedom is to make a buck. It's the easiest nation to make a living in, but other than that, just about anywhere in Europe is much more free than USA.

If we were really concerned about health and healthcare in the USA, we would be recreational sports. Recreational sports counts for a hell lot more dollars spent in care than smoking ever will. Think of many millions suffer injuries and even death every year due to sports. These do-gooders try use statistics to validate the prohibition of tobacco... well that same method should abolish any and all sports played.

Do I think we should ban sports? No, just showing the failed "bigger picture". Such a crock. Worried about Big Brother? He's been watching us for a long time...
How about we ban life? Every birth in the entire world ends in 100% mortality ultimately. Talk about flawed logic.

What I am concerned with the most on this, and maybe you folks from Ma. can shed some light, but this Dr. Ferrar individual who is spear heading this, as I understand it, is not an elected official. Not to mention she's a total dumbass as well.
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The Committee that put this into law was appointed by the mayor, Mayor Menino that is...
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Re: BOSTON: No more cigar bars?!?!

When are McDonald's, Burgar King, etc. going to be outlawed for selling food that make people fat? When are the $1 burgers going to get a $1 tax because they're bad for peoples' health? When is Starbucks and other gourmet coffee establishments going to be charged 100% tax on their gourmet coffee?? Coffee can be bought at a gas station for $1...big brother knows caffiene is bad for peoples' health, so why not pay a tax because those people are ruining their own health??

I become infuriated that tobacco has become the root of all evils. With all the people who drink and drive, re-approve prohibition outside of the home. Big Brother has gone too far and the people who are supposed to be working for US aren't doing shit. It's pathetic and disgraceful.
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