Warning: NJ residents being charged back-taxes on Internet Purchases.

[uptown_cigar]

I got a call from a customer this morning who said that he received a letter from the State of NJ, claiming that he owes money in taxes for cigars that were purchased from these people BACK IN 2003!!! I thought it might be a fluke, until someone else on another board told me the same thing. He also got the letter from the state today. Just thought everyone should be aware of this. Oh, and a side note....someone from this company was BANNED from another board a few months back. Just thought I would mention it.

[mryellowx]

Thats the state. If you read the fine print on almost any online retailer its says if the customer is out of state they are soppose to pay their own states tax.

[uptown_cigar]

Originally Posted by mryellowx

Thats the state. If you read the fine print on almost any online retailer its says if the customer is out of state they are soppose to pay their own states tax.

So does that mean that anything I purchase out of state should be taxed? There is no tax on purchases made from out of state. This doesn't apply to anything else...only tobacco. Also, I missed the fine print you talk about. And I usually read EVERYTHING in the fine print.

[uptown_cigar]

New Havana Cigars said that these records were given to the state from Fedex. So NJ decided that based on the values on the packages that was given to Fedex, this is how they will base the tax rate.

[JDC20]

Originally Posted by uptown_cigar

So does that mean that anything I purchase out of state should be taxed? There is no tax on purchases made from out of state. This doesn't apply to anything else...only tobacco. Also, I missed the fine print you talk about. And I usually read EVERYTHING in the fine print.

Yes, a use tax is "supposed" to be paid on any purchase that come from outside the state if the item is shipped in. It is the consumers responsibility to report.

Also, NJ has something funny going on as I believe that they require retailers to report to them any tobacco shipped into the state. I know a number of online retailers that do so and only do so to the state of NJ.

Edit: The Fedex thing makes more sense, but NJ is known to try to collect the tax.

[uptown_cigar]

Originally Posted by JDC20

Yes, a use tax is "supposed" to be paid on any purchase that come from outside the state if the item is shipped in. It is the consumers responsibility to report.

Also, NJ has something funny going on as I believe that they require retailers to report to them any tobacco shipped into the state. I know a number of online retailers that do so and only do so to the state of NJ.

Edit: The Fedex thing makes more sense, but NJ is known to try to collect the tax.

Thanks for the explanation. I'll spread the word.

[BamBam]

Originally Posted by uptown_cigar

Thanks for the explanation. I'll spread the word.

soooo...being a fellow retailer do you still stand by your damaging claim that your competitor is "not good". This is the first time I ever heard anything negative about NHC.

This seems a sort of strategy as a retailer. Put a title that a competitor is "not good" so everyone sees it whether they open the thread or not. Then in the thread the retailer finds out the claim is false, yet the title remains for all to see.

Sort of like putting something damaging on the front page of a newspaper and then retracting it the next day on page 3 where noone looks.

[uptown_cigar]

Originally Posted by BamBam

soooo...being a fellow retailer do you still stand by your damaging claim that your competitort is "not good". This is the first time I ever heard anything negative about NHC

In my post title, I wrote "not good" referring to the situation. Also, this is after TWO of my customers received these letters. I'm just looking out for them and for everyone else that is tired of getting SCREWED by the tax nazis.

[BamBam]

Originally Posted by uptown_cigar

In my post title, I wrote "not good" referring to the situation.

That is not how I took it, and I'm sure not how anyone else took it.

the title is pretty straight forward, it has the name of a cigar company, the state where it's located so there's no mistake of the exact company, and the words "not good". Pretty obvious.

Originally Posted by uptown_cigar

I'm just looking out for them and for everyone else that is tired of getting SCREWED by the tax nazis.

ummmm.....I don't think so. Just to clarify...the State of NJ is the "Tax Nazi" not New Havana Cigars. If you wanna look out for people then shine the spotlight where it belongs, the State doing the Taxing, not on a competing business.

These types of antics don't make me wanna deal with a company that comes from that angle.

I call BS. Back Pedal on

[uptown_cigar]

Bambam,

Were you banned from another board going under a different name back in September? Just trying to figure out if you are the same person I'm thinking about. Mr Punch?

[srduggins]

I have to agree with BamBam on this one. Good job calling him out.

[uptown_cigar]

Sorry to hear that. I stand by what I wrote.

[kansashat]

Not to be confrontational, or throw rocks, but I can see where it looked kinda like you might be casting New Havana Cigars in Ohio in a less than favorable light.

Not that you meant it that way, but it could be seen that way.

[BamBam]

Originally Posted by uptown_cigar

Bambam,

Were you banned from another board going under a different name back in September? Just trying to figure out if you are the same person I'm thinking about. Mr Punch?

Nope. Never been banned for callin things like I see em.

[uptown_cigar]

Originally Posted by BamBam

Nope. Never been banned for callin things like I see em.

My mistake. And he wasn't banned for calling things like he sees them. He knows why he was banned. If you work there or deal with him, you would probably know who he is. But thanks anyway for the clarification.