With new president comes new cigar tax

[baba]

Originally Posted by nativetexan_1

Forget poverty level, below poverty level, or above poverty level. I just want to know where in the Constitution Congress believes they get the authortity to spend tax money on health care for anybody!!

I agree that the government role is questionable with health care. Unfortunately most of the people that voted for the new president elect believe it is the governments role to take care of us. Personally I think the governments role should be safety and roads - basic things, that is it.

[GotaCohiba-cl]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

If it passes I will be putting my kids on the insurance and then that will give me a $550 dollar a month cigar fund that I will save on paying for insurance!

That's great for those in the right income range,but your profession should come with good insurance for the kids already.

[tx_tuff]

Well I don't even come close to $80,000 a year! And yes I have good insurance but it cost me $550 a month, the County only pays for part of it. And I wasn't being serious I was being a smarta$$.

[SMOKING HANDSOME DUDE]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

If it passes I will be putting my kids on the insurance and then that will give me a $550 dollar a month cigar fund that I will save on paying for insurance!

Wow Frank I never thought about it that way. Whoo Hoo more cigar money!!

This bill is a bad idea. Frank's comment is a good one, but this is just another example of the government meddling in our lives. I would recommend writing your local congressman and letting them know how you feel about SCHIP. There are links right here on CL to make contact easier. We have to get involved in order to make things happen.

[happy1]

anyway you look at it, It sucks!!! It's not the government job to tell me that I have to pay for some lazy asses kid.This is just the start of Americans losing their civil liberties

[leafandale]

Originally Posted by deuce

You obviously dont frequent my locals

Got some gougers up there, deuce?? I guess I was trying to put as positive a spin on your scenario as possible. We're going to have higher prices for sure... the question remains how much. Maybe I'm being optimistic. I guess we're still fortunate here in TN with a 6.6% OTP tax. Although I have heard some Republican lawmakers would like to take that to 15%.

[leafandale]

Originally Posted by GotaCohiba

That's great for those in the right income range,but your profession should come with good insurance for the kids already.

But that's the problem with SCHIP. If you meet the income requirements even though you already have private insurance, you can elect to move them to the government run insurance plan. And under SCHIP, a child is up to 24 years of age. And don't forget about the children of illegal aliens who will also be covered.

The wording on SCHIP, as well as Obama's take on SCHIP, is "Low Income" and not "poverty." Those are two different income levels in America. In Obama's world rich is anyone making over $250,000 a year ($150,000 a year in Biden's world) and low income is anyone making less than that!

[GotaCohiba-cl]

Originally Posted by leafandale

But that's the problem with SCHIP. If you meet the income requirements even though you already have private insurance, you can elect to move them to the government run insurance plan. And under SCHIP, a child is up to 24 years of age. And don't forget about the children of illegal aliens who will also be covered.

The wording on SCHIP, as well as Obama's take on SCHIP, is "Low Income" and not "poverty." Those are two different income levels in America. In Obama's world rich is anyone making over $250,000 a year ($150,000 a year in Biden's world) and low income is anyone making less than that!

I'm fine when the government steps in and helps those in need get back on their feet, just not the freeloaders that stay there forever.
As for the illegal aliens, I'd rather not even get started.

[GotaCohiba-cl]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

Well I don't even come close to $80,000 a year! And yes I have good insurance but it cost me $550 a month, the County only pays for part of it. And I wasn't being serious I was being a smarta$$.

Wife work?
What's going to kill a lot of people the $80,000 is combined household.
The scary part is I read somewhere that would include matching 401k contributions by your employer and pensions.
As far as you not making the $80,000, well I'll just state that civil servant jobs are way underpaid in my opinion.
Teachers, cops, fireman, etc.
We all need to , because this country is falling apart!!!
Teachers in SC start out in the $30,000 yr range.
There's no way in hell I'd teach all those brats and thugs for 30k, the lack of discipline is killing the schools systems everywhere.
And if anyone reading this doesn't agree with discipline in schools, kiss my ass.

[nativetexan_1]

If we wait longer, will you tell us how you really feel?

[GotaCohiba-cl]

Just imagine when your child needs emergency care and there are 50 illegals and lazy asses in the emergency room with headaches or wanting a doctor excuse to avoid going to work after taking your job.

[Humidor Minister]

You cigar makers better start making one LONG cigar we can cut to length.

[Humidor Minister]

I thought we would have learned when minium wage was raised. Prices went up, unemployment went up, quality went down and business turned to crap. What do you think will happen when taxes are increased. Same thing on a larger scale. Cigar prices will go up, sales will go down, unemployment will rise and businesses will close. Good news for the undeserving I guess.

[BigTex-cl]

I wish they'd leave the cigars alone and just tax the hell out of olde English and Brillo pads.

[Deuce Da Masta]

Originally Posted by leafandale

Got some gougers up there, deuce?? I guess I was trying to put as positive a spin on your scenario as possible. We're going to have higher prices for sure... the question remains how much. Maybe I'm being optimistic. I guess we're still fortunate here in TN with a 6.6% OTP tax. Although I have heard some Republican lawmakers would like to take that to 15%.

Gougers is one way of putting it.