SCHIP Casualties...

[Brule]

Originally Posted by ssilverado60

whats going on in washington is what i would consider over the top

I'm actually quite impressed with the reaction of this thread. I've been rather pessimistic recently but it's good to see other people have similar reactions and we're not completely overtaken by numbness to the situation.

[uncballzer]

So, lets add this to the thread??
House says 'no' to pet primates - CNN.com

[sboyajian]

Originally Posted by Puro_Angler

Not necessarily. Those people who make more money than you do will have to pay an out of pocket expense to cover premiums and/or co-pays. CHIP is not medicaid. Parents, depending on income and household size, will pay certain amounts based on a sliding scale. Of course, this varies state to state and is the current way things are running. I don't know whether this will change or not based on the new plan. Also keep in mind that CHIP insurance is an alternative to standard health insurance, which is expensive and to a certain degree, useless. Standard health insurance often denies or limits the amount of treatment a child (and adults) gets to minimize expenditures.
I understand that the SCHIP bill will severly impact our hobby and pleasure, but lets look at the big picture -- Millions of uninsured children. I work for a non-profit organization that treats children in desperate need of care, most who are uninsured and have no place else to go. Most of the time treatments per child are few and we must rely on parents/caregivers heeding our advice and doing the best they can at home.
An even bigger picture: The staggeing amount of children being diagnosed with autism or in the group of autism spectrum disorders. I'm sure many of you have heard something about autism within the past few years. There's a reason for that -- 1 in 150 children are diagnosed with the disorder. If you've never met or seen a person with ASD, chances are you will soon. The causes of autism are still very debatable and I will leave it at that, I think I've said enough.
This is a very hard line to draw for me, as I'm a passionate cigar smoker. However, I'm more concerned about the rising number of sick kids. I say lets give this a chance and see what happens.

Let's be very honest here and still agree, while children need healthcare, SCHIP is a broken system much like all of our health care solutions.

In 2007 when I was out of work, I lost my insurance. My son was born with a major heart defect that at the time looked as though he may need surgery. At the very least I saw impending doom of medical bills as it required constant monitoring (Ultrasounds, EKG's, etc)..

When I called SCHIP to try to enroll him, they told me that unfortunately they could not cover my son, because my salary PRIOR to being laid off, was to high.

Does make any sense at all? When I had a job, I made to much. When I lost said job, i HAD made to much.. that does little for me when I am not making anything.

For what it's worth, I feel I should point out that since he was denied standard coverage under a private health plan, I had to pay for the "State mandated" one that forces insurance companies to provide coverage, but at a much higher rate. My son's healthcare when I was not working, was half of my unemployment.

[e-man]

Originally Posted by uncballzer

So, lets add this to the thread??
House says 'no' to pet primates - CNN.com

That would mean that Obama can't keep Joe Biden anymore.

BTW- It isn't racist to call Joe Biden a monkey because he is white.

[LibertyToad]

Originally Posted by sboyajian

Does make any sense at all? When I had a job, I made to much. When I lost said job, i HAD made to much.. that does little for me when I am not making anything.

Welcome to socialized/government healthcare. It has nothing to do with children and everything to do with power, control, and money.

Elections have consequences.

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by strider72

Gee... a f###ed up liberal scheme that will fail... hmmm... USSR fell too.

Are you serious? Wow.

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by e-man

They should tax organized religion. Isn't it their duty to help the poor?

Now we're talking.

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by ade06

It can't be any longer than the 8 years which got us into this mess to begin with.

Whoo! I thought I was completely alone here. I'm with you brother!

[Raybird]

Originally Posted by Buddha024

Whoo! I thought I was completely alone here. I'm with you brother!

I just can't grasp the theory that because we have gone through eight disasterous years it's ok to make it so much worse!

[c2000]

I'm all for giving kids the same thing I got when I was a kid-----------NOTHING.



Jerry in Minnesota.

[BlewSmoke.com]

Here's an article in the Miami New Times.


Miami - Riptide 2.0 - Obama's New Cigar Tax Might Just Kill Miami's Torcedores

[strider72]

We all knew when the socialist SOBs took the White House and Congress this was going to happen. As far as some of you throwing blame on the Bush administration, the mess we are in is a Clinton Administration leftover...

[JBravo]

Originally Posted by Brule

I'm actually quite impressed with the reaction of this thread. I've been rather pessimistic recently but it's good to see other people have similar reactions and we're not completely overtaken by numbness to the situation.

I agree. I'm impressed with the reactions in this thread also. I think the current situation is only going to get worse before it gets better and I wonder how long or what will it take for people to start becoming publicly vocal (take to the streets) about it.

back to the original topic. I think some of the companies have already started raising their prices in anticipation of the new tax