SCHIP Casualties...

[BlewSmoke.com]

I tend to read a lot of articles on this subject as I'm sure we all do. This is the first (of maybe many).

Finck Cigar Company (Finck Cigar Company :)

Here is Bill Finck's letter to the Washington Times:
Washington Times - LETTER TO EDITOR: Brutal S-CHIP tax provisions

[sboyajian]

I'm tempted to buy something from Finck just to help them through it.

[BlewSmoke.com]

Originally Posted by sboyajian

I'm tempted to buy something from Finck just to help them through it.

Haha..I felt the came compulsion. However, we'll really need to see how this all shakes out. The impact may be far less than the anticipated worry. He's obviously talking worst case..and truly the SCHIP bill is flawed in so may ways, but we'll just have to ride it out an see what happens in 6-12 months or longer.

[Professor Mike]

The Feds have already determined that they are 22 million smokers short of having enough money to properly fund SCHIPs from the increase in tobacco tax. It would seem that the program is doomed to fail or the non-smoking tax payer will somehow have to make up the difference. We'll have to see how all this plays out. You can bet that if the SCHIP program goes by the wayside the tax will not go away. The money from the tobacco tax increase will be shifted to some other LIBERAL FEDERAL program.

Prof. Mike

[strider72]

Gee... a f###ed up liberal scheme that will fail... hmmm... USSR fell too.

[smokering10]

Originally Posted by Professor Mike

The Feds have already determined that they are 22 million smokers short of having enough money to properly fund SCHIPs from the increase in tobacco tax.

actually i heard from glenn beck that it will take 42 million more smokers to fund it.

[Professor Mike]

Mr Beck is probably closer to the exact number. In any event the program will cost all the taxpayers more than they realize.

[strider72]

Wait!!!! Does that mean they want us to smoke more???!!! Alll right!

[liljohn]

It can't mean they want us to smoke when other forums tell about state smoking ban initiatives

[strider72]

I know... ban smoking... maybe they ought to ban Big Macs.... more people killed by heart disease caused mostly by eating the wrong thing.

[topshelfcigars]

Unfortunately, I think Mr. Finck is correct about the effect on his business. The cigars he makes will be hit the hardest by SCHIP, because of the price points. Another casualty of the well-meaning but ignorant nanny state.

[FN in MT]

Originally Posted by topshelfcigars

Unfortunately, I think Mr. Finck is correct about the effect on his business. The cigars he makes will be hit the hardest by SCHIP, because of the price points. Another casualty of the well-meaning but ignorant nanny state.

The NANNY STATE is NOT "well meaning". They are arrogant, elitist and self serving.

They are not taxing tobbaco to save lives. But to simply fund another one of their "feel good" programs. The goal or plan isn't about actually accomplishing something....but the appearance of accomplishing something.

FN in MT

[ssilverado60]

Originally Posted by FN in MT

The NANNY STATE is NOT "well meaning". They are arrogant, elitist and self serving.

They are not taxing tobbaco to save lives. But to simply fund another one of their "feel good" programs. The goal or plan isn't about actually accomplishing something....but the appearance of accomplishing something.

FN in MT

EXACTLY!! couldnt have said it better myself.

They want power and control, not to help people. there are exceptions, but not many

[mc2712]

Well meaning is term made up to make peolple feel good, but that is all that will be important for the next 4 years. Trying to make people feel good or we meant well or it's for the kids, it is all crap and BS to try to get more taxes for stuff people should be taken care of on their own!

[Raybird]

Originally Posted by ssilverado60

EXACTLY!! couldnt have said it better myself.

They want power and control, not to help people. there are exceptions, but not many

You guys are right on the money (which is going to be about a $1 per cigar hit initially - and this is just for starters!). We are so screwed with this bunch in charge...