You wont beleave what i heard

[Snake Hips]

Originally Posted by stbdtack

. . .so when "all" the States are doing this we will purchase from Pennsylvania (unless they stupidly pass a tax) or Florida (where there's never likely to be one). Other on-line retailers will either die or move to Florida. . .

No, not quite. Doesn't matter where you purchase from, you owe the taxes. New Jersey, Connecticut, et al are sending tax bills for cigars bought in states like Pennsylavania and Florida. The taxes in the states you're buying from has nothing to do with it, you don't owe those states any money. That's why places like Cigars International don't charge you any tax unless you live in the state they're based in.

[Jonesee]

Originally Posted by stbdtack

. . .so when "all" the States are doing this we will purchase from Pennsylvania (unless they stupidly pass a tax) or Florida (where there's never likely to be one). Other on-line retailers will either die or move to Florida. . .

I don't believe Florida has an additional tax on cigars, but the basic sales tax applies. I live in Florida and pay taxes everytime I cigars online form a Florida-based retailer.

Additionally, I read an article that Florida is looking for a way to enforce sales tax collection on all online purchases. Whether the vendors is based in Florida or not.

[BlueHavanaII]

Originally Posted by nativetexan_1

I wish somebody would post a copy of one of these "tax bills".

Here's what one of my customers received:

Dear Taxpayer,

The Federal Government requires any entity or persons shipping cigarettes or tobacco products in interstate commerce to file a monthly report of all shipments to the receiving state's tax administrator. Information received by the State of New Jersey indicates that you are in receipt of untaxed cigars from Blue Havana II Cigars and Gifts.

New Jersey Statutes Annotated, N.J.S.A. 54:40B-1 et. seq. (Tobacco Product Tax) levies a 30% tax on every tobacco product and N.J.S.A 54:32B-1 et. seq. (Sales and Use Tax) levies a tax of 7% on the purchase price including the 30% tax.

The New Jersey Division of Taxation has determined that you are liable for the following tax amount based on the purchase listed below:

Date 4/30/2007
Description: Cigars $90.00
Tobacco product tax @ 30% $27.00
Amount subject to sales tax @ 7% $117.00

Tax Due $27.00
$ 8.19
Total Taxes to be remitted by the above named purchaser: $35.19

Please make your remittance payable to "State of New Jersey" and mail in the envelope provided along with a copy of this letter within (30) days of the date hereof. Failure to respond will result in the assessment of penalties and interest as provided by New Jersey statute.

Very truly yours,
Audit Services Branch
[Name], Technician, MIS
[Phone number]
Cigarette & Tobacco Products Tax

[XTRazzer]

Ohio has done this as well. A friend was getting tobacco out of state because of the lower cost, then Ohio sent him a tax bill for nearly $1,000 due immediately. Worst part was the current tax rate was retroactively applied over the past two or so years.

I'm still not sure how the heck this happened. Only thing I can figure is it was a regular credit card purchase and somewhere somebody caught on?


Ad Edit: Now I see how it happened ... regular business reports ... go figure

[oceanelect4]

good god enough with all these taxes god help us all

[royhubbs]

Luckily, for the the moment the state of NH doesn't have a cigar tax.

[Acesfull]

Ohio has done this with cigarette but not cigars... YET

*EDIT* Saw XT's post... was it Cigars, Pipe or cigarette tobacco? I know a few people got hammered with cigarette taxes.

[XTRazzer]

Originally Posted by Acesfull

Ohio has done this with cigarette but not cigars... YET

*EDIT* Saw XT's post... was it Cigars, Pipe or cigarette tobacco? I know a few people got hammered with cigarette taxes.

Cigarettes from a store in Kentucky that were being shipped to a residence. Sorry I forgot to put that in the post earlier.

[strider72]

Originally Posted by oceanelect4

good god enough with all these taxes god help us all

Thank the people of questionable intelligence who elected a partry into power whose StandardOperatingProcedure is tax the hell out of everything you got and use.

[Snake Hips]

Originally Posted by strider72

Thank the people of questionable intelligence who elected a partry into power whose StandardOperatingProcedure is tax the hell out of everything you got and use.

Aye. They go "I thought he wasn't going to raise taxes!" Come on, Ray Charles saw that coming...and he's dead...

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by strider72

Thank the people of questionable intelligence who elected a partry into power whose StandardOperatingProcedure is tax the hell out of everything you got and use.

From someone with "questionable intelligence"....you're welcome.

[strider72]

Originally Posted by Buddha024

From someone with "questionable intelligence"....you're welcome.

My bad... should have said "Don't thank"...

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by strider72

My bad... should have said "Don't thank"...

That's your reply? I guess etiquette doesn't apply in the Legislation Forum, huh?

[strider72]

I thought I was being fairly nice on the subject, there are plenty of more colorful metaphors and descriptions I could use.

[Itsme-Speedy-G]

born free, taxed to death