CI Charging For SCHIP Already

[wescoaststogie]

Originally Posted by Poriggity

Dude,
come on.. The fact remains, whether the ad print was a "mistake" or not, they still printed it, and they did in fact raise the price on some cigars, BEFORE SCHIP took effect. IMHO, thats a bad move. Period.
Scott

so what the hell were they supposed to do when some of the manufacturers raised their prices BEFORE SCHIP took effect? just eat the cost?

Dude,
come on.. get a clue about even the most basic business functions and then come back.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wescoaststogie

so what the hell were they supposed to do when some of the manufacturers raised their prices BEFORE SCHIP took effect? just eat the cost?

Dude,
come on.. get a clue about even the most basic business functions and then come back.

Your straightforwardness is an admirable trait for you I'm sure but speaking to others on this forum the way you do will not add anything positive to your posts. I'd take it down a level or two.

[Zarathustra19]

Though westcoast may have been a bit abrasive, he has a point. Its not as if every retailer decided to just raise the prices before taxes took effect. The manufacturers upped the MSRP and they had to respond. The retailers also have to pay a floor tax on whatever they have in stock, which is an insane amount of money for them to cover. I like to think of it as keeping our online retailers in business. But, I certainly see where people can get extremely pissed at this hike in price.

[Buddha024]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra19

The manufacturers upped the MSRP and they had to respond.

If that's what happened then why did CI say they were raising the prices due to the SCHIP tax days before 4/1? Or give that as the reason in a follow up email? That's what Jonesee was upset about to begin with. I think we keep losing sight of that.

[Jonesee]

Wes isn't telling us the whole story. He continues to say it a manufacturer's price increase. Either this is a WAG, or he has some inside information.

His defense of CI has been so adamant and closed that I am betting if we knew the whole story, there is a tie to CI, its parent or subsidiary. I've asked each time to disclose if he has any information the rest of us don't have. He has never come clean, yet continues to tell us it is a manufactuer's price increase when even CI hasn't said that. Makes one go HMMmmm...

And for the record I am not upset at all. It was just an observation on the ad from CI that warranted a question. CI's lack of response and Wes' tone and tenor of his responses have kept this thead going long after it could have died... Kind of a Streisand Effect

[slyder]

Originally Posted by wescoaststogie

yea, it appears to be a cute little system for people "in the circle" to pump each other up with inflated numbers or something, so they feel good about themselves i guess?

i don't really know, but it reminds me of the popularity contests back in the high school days. in any case, it looks like i'm off to a splended start lol

Yeah a -63! wow! Sorry i couldnt find a high 5 smiley to post. how low do you think you can take it? Well good luck to ya in your quest.

[BlueHavanaII]

Originally Posted by Zarathustra19

Though westcoast may have been a bit abrasive, he has a point. Its not as if every retailer decided to just raise the prices before taxes took effect. The manufacturers upped the MSRP and they had to respond. The retailers also have to pay a floor tax on whatever they have in stock, which is an insane amount of money for them to cover. I like to think of it as keeping our online retailers in business. But, I certainly see where people can get extremely pissed at this hike in price.

There was no floor stocks tax on cigars.
Prices have increased for a variety of reasons, and will continue to increase for the next several months. Increased labor and transportation costs, in addition to S-CHIP, have made the manufacturers take a hard look at their businesses and profit margins. Some raised prices as early as March 15th, while others have announced new pricing effective in May.

[KickU2Sleep]

-63.....And I was concerned that my ring gauge wasn't going up at all....

More on topic...I think the S-hit tax panic is being overblown(IMO)...I think once the hysteria subsides, in the end, we won't realize that much lose or increase....Hopefully I'm right(was right once, at least my wife tells me so)..If prices increase I will make concessions elsewhere to be able to enjoy cigars, maybe drink less top shelf and more swill....eat out less while at work, or as mentioned before,, sell my wife(slightly used blonde with some bagage, make offer).....In the end everything increases in price and you either accept it or you stop....I do firmly believe that the Govt is DEAD wrong with a tax that affects only a small percentage of the population. Taxes should be increased fairly throughout all segments of society....Peace, Love, and Cigars people..Can't we all just get along......

[nativetexan_1]

I got my April CI catalog and compared prices to the March catalog. Just a sampling but:

(all in Robusto size)
Broatus -- No Change
RP Vintage 90 or 92 -- No Change
La Differencia Cuban -- No Change
5 Vegas Classic -- No Change
1876 Reserve -- No Change
Erin Go Bragh -- No Change
Gurka's Castle Hall -- No Change
Man o' War -- No Change
Victor Sinclair Triple Corojo -- No Change
Indian Tabac Super Fuerte -- No Change
El Mejor Emerald -- No Change, but are $10.00 higher on the website tonight
Alec Bradley Harvest Selection -- +$5.00

All-in-all, everything seems about the same to me, BUT, they are still selling cigars that were in the hands of the retailer before the new taxing scheme went into effect. There may still be changes coming.

PS. Sorry, but I just couldn't bring myself to check on too many of the "high roller" cigars.

[havanitascigars-cl]

Originally Posted by nativetexan_1

I got my April CI catalog and compared prices to the March catalog. Just a sampling but:

(all in Robusto size)
Broatus -- No Change
RP Vintage 90 or 92 -- No Change
La Differencia Cuban -- No Change
5 Vegas Classic -- No Change
1876 Reserve -- No Change
Erin Go Bragh -- No Change
Gurka's Castle Hall -- No Change
Man o' War -- No Change
Victor Sinclair Triple Corojo -- No Change
Indian Tabac Super Fuerte -- No Change
El Mejor Emerald -- No Change, but are $10.00 higher on the website tonight
Alec Bradley Harvest Selection -- +$5.00

All-in-all, everything seems about the same to me, BUT, they are still selling cigars that were in the hands of the retailer before the new taxing scheme went into effect. There may still be changes coming.

PS. Sorry, but I just couldn't bring myself to check on too many of the "high roller" cigars.

There is a disclaimer in the catalog that prices may change without notice and the prices in this issue may increase by the time the reader receives it.

[wescoaststogie]

Originally Posted by slyder

Yeah a -63! wow! Sorry i couldnt find a high 5 smiley to post. how low do you think you can take it? Well good luck to ya in your quest.

haha, no quest in the works here, i was expecting to hit the century mark at least though the way things were going. one dude actually gave me a positive bump, but i reckon that feller must have just hit the wrong button so lets pretend i'm at -83

[slyder]

the catalogs were all printed before April 1. So prices wont reflect the tax hike.

[tx_tuff]

This thread has gone past its usefulness, getting ugly in here. So I have decided to close it.