I slowly and thoughtfully remove the cigar from my mouth, holding it in a very refined fashion. I make a few small gestures at key moments with it as I say something like this, "Thank you so much for offering your considered opinion into a previously nonexistent discussion. I think we can both agree that there are grounds for both agreement and disagreement, for a meeting of the minds and also for a clashing of swords, when it comes to the topic of Nicotiana tabacum. On the basis of this theoretical agreement, then, I suggest we embark upon a voyage of mutual discovery, venturing into heretofore unvisited realms of fascinating and scintillating conversation. It is there, among the exotic sights and sounds and scents of a new cerebral land, that we may ultimately arrive at the most satisfactory conclusion to this adventure. A conclusion, which I may flatter myself to suggest ... " and so on until they surrender and walk away. At which point I enjoy a celebratory puff ... :biggrin:
I would tell them to suck my sack....sorry, I just LOLd at myself....
Oh and as far as what I say to others who give me some disapproving looks or words.
I simply say, "It never ceases to amaze me how many perfect strangers are genuinely concerned for my health and well being" Then with a straight face say "Can I get a hug"? and move forward towards them. I have never seen people move away from me so quickly after being shut down like that.
You kinda have to be willing to commit to possibly getting popped. :wacko: Its a conscious decision on my part and I admit it comes off as a bit :crazy: .
It does diffuse the situation though in most (not all) cases.
You guys have some interesting responses, but I am a proponent of remaining polite and dignified in what goes on that others may not particularly care for, that being said, I partake in places that are either geared towards that pursuit or around people who like it in the first place. If I did so otherwise, I would not be in the right to feel offended by someone being offended that I was intruding on something not intended or allowing of such a means of "relaxation".
That also being said, I've known many that were tasered, pepper sprayed, and kicked in the balls in response to their acting very rude or insulting to what you like to call "trolls", that being said, whether or not you agree with the result (I'm going to take a wild guess and say you don't), the point remains that all people have the right to their opinion.
The world would be a much better place if we deleted the word "troll" and all references or considerations that relate to it, as it causes nothing but aggression and issues across the net and now off it, and never have I ever seen it used properly, as the people calling out others are the ones who are generally doing the "trolling".
So, to recap, politeness, or you may be on the receiving end of a tool for self defense, which in many states is a viable response to someone acting extreme insulting or aggressive towards you.
Also, I've found that if you remain cordial and polite and seem to not be such a bad person when you respond to them or perhaps--if it would not present a problem to you--moving to another location... the option to invite the person against cigars to sit with you and try one is also something that strangely enough... works.
People have social brainwashing (I hate that word but I can't think of a better one right now) about such things and in regards to cigars, a little first hand education as I described above can do wonders.
I've never had this problem, but I don't tend to smoke in public places other than cigar lounges or bar patios/decks. If I do light up while at a bar I sit as far away from people as possible, out of courtesy, and I usually bring a relatively non-offensive cigar. While I'm not generally a fan of "infused" cigars, I find that keeping a small humi of ACID on hand is perfect for those occasions where I will be in public. They are not overpowering with their flavoring (needlessly sweetened, though) and the general public actually LIKES the smell of the smoke.
Overall, I understand that my hobby can be inconvenient to many, and I take as much care to to avoid offending as I would wish the public would take in allowing me to enjoy a smoke.
I ran into one today on the trail smoking a cigar with the dog and my kids. She says smoking around the children and pets. I was gonna say something but my daughter beat me to it. She said and i quote!
"Lady we are all outside"
Max our dog just lifted his leg and pee LOL!
i usually thank them for their concern and let them know that i will go home and contemplate all of my lifes decisions..... though im not compltetly sure if my sarcasm is a bit to dry for them to pick up my humor.... as long as im laughing it must be funny though.
While I think it's wrong to stop doing something just because someone might react aggressively, I completely agree that a soft answer turns away wrath.
If you want others to stop thinking of cigar smokers as rude jerks who care only about thsemselves, the solution is simple: don't be a rude jerk who only thinks about himself. We give ourselves our own reputation. As a young guy, and a cigar smoker, I'm almost always immediately judged on appearance. The only way to change that is not to be the guy they assume I am. If I'm polite, and accomodate a reasonable request, I might just change the stereotype in one person's mind.
I'm not going to bend over and take verbal abuse from someone, but by the same token, if the request is reasonable, I'll certainly be polite about it. I don't want to ruin someone else's night just because I demand my right to enjoy a cigar when and where I want it, even at other's expense. Is it a free country? Sure. Is it wrong to light up, knowing it's going to bother everyone around you and not care? Absolutely. That's a pretty selfish thing to do.
The only real exception, IMO, is the "smoking cigars where everyone else is smoking cigarettes situation". In that case, I'll dialogue with them, but their cigarette smell is bothering me as much as my cigar smoke bothers them, and I'm probably being exposed to worse health risk from their cigarettes than they are from my cigar, so it's a moot point.
Then there will be people who judge you, and might be rude about it. Again, my general solution is that a soft answer often turns away wrath. Engage those people in conversation, offer them the statistics about occasional cigar smoking's minimal risk. Ask them what informs their opinion, and give them accurate information. But being rude and snippy only reinforces the sterotype that cigar smokers are selfish jerks who only care about pleasing themselves.
I tell them that my cigar smoke is idiot repellant.
Professor Kurt: Which ACID is your preference? If I may ask... fellow young puffer Dave
Personally... I don't smoke where I'm not allowed.. I prefer to let myself indulge in every moment... so if it's not right.. well it's wrong.. and if it's wrong.. damn.. I'm just addicted to tobacco nic. So, I smoke at home.. at bar's that allow it.. on patio's.. with friends that smoke.