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post #41 of 49 Old 07-04-2017, 02:05 AM
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So I have been working on the retrohale more. This cigar I had tonight was worthy of it and it worked out well for me. Still doing more or less what I mentioned on the previous page. Most of the smoke out the mouth, some thru the nose. Made me appreciate tonights smoke a lot more. I'm not saying the next person should do it this way, just that it is working for me.
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post #42 of 49 Old 07-05-2017, 05:36 PM
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OP - if you haven't checked out cigar reviewer 'Katman' you might want to do so. Real name - Phil Kohn - & he has quite a palate for tasting cigars. - Either that, or he's full of **** and making it all up ! He gets flavors that most of us have a hard time picking out.
His reviews are informative and fun to read.
He says he doesn't retrohale when doing a cigar review. But he's able to distinguish all sorts of different flavors. Who knows, maybe he's a freak of nature.

I retrohale now, with just about every cigar I smoke. But not on every puff. Just a few puffs from each cigar. Its probably one of those YMMV things.


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While picking out flavors does take at least a decent palate, I think it mostly takes practice and creativity. You have to experiment with tasting foods as well as cigars. How can something taste like cardamom if you've never tasted cardamom before? Have you ever sat down to eat peanuts and instead of chomping down on them you really took a second to register and remember what they taste like? It's hard to describe, but I can really "zoom in" on the flavors of a cigar by smacking my tongue up and down from the roof of my mouth. For whatever reason, the flavors become much more apparent. I tend to do that now with food, too, and it makes a big difference.

Sommeliers don't just become sommeliers because they have a natural palate that can pick out notes of black cherry and anise seed. They train themselves to take the time to really taste food and register it in their mind. It's like creating a mental Rolodex of flavors that they can then use when sampling wine.

Sure, some cigar reviews can go over the top, but...then again maybe not. I think it's possible to really train yourself to have a sharp palate and to pick out very distinct flavors.

Every once and awhile I'll pull out this graphic while smoking a new cigar and go around the wheel to see if any of these flavors register with me. It can be kind of fun:


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I am a fairly new cigar smoker and my first couple of retrohales were pretty bad but I was exhaling out to fast, after pushing it out of my nose slower it was fine and I could definitely pick up some different flavors that I didn't notice before. I retrohale about every 3rd puff and gotten to know what I can handle so far without ruining my session.
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to the OP: I regularly retrohale pipe tobacco but never cigar. Its just not something I enjoy.
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post #46 of 49 Old 07-07-2017, 11:27 AM
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I retrohale some, not every puff and not all when I do. With that said I don't think I would enjoy the cigar nearly as much if I never retrohaled.
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I don't retrohale but I do try to get a whiff of the smoke coming off the foot both when I'm puffing and when the cigar is resting. Even that casual contact really enhances the flavor and enjoyment of the smoke so I can only imagine what retrohaling would add. However, since I'm not quite ready to sear my nasal passages yet, I'm only going to imagine what it adds!
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The tips here are really interesting. I too didn't realize you're not supposed to exhale the entire puff through the nose. It burned like I snorted water. I'm looking forward to trying these tomorrow and see if a more subtle approach can enhance my smoking experience.
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I don't retrohale but I do try to get a whiff of the smoke coming off the foot both when I'm puffing and when the cigar is resting. Even that casual contact really enhances the flavor and enjoyment of the smoke so I can only imagine what retrohaling would add. However, since I'm not quite ready to sear my nasal passages yet, I'm only going to imagine what it adds!
This. As I was reading this thread, I kept thinking to myself, I enjoy simply catching the aroma off the foot of the cigar when taking a puff. My favorite so far, is the sweet baked bread smell that eminates from the foot of my beloved Oliva Melanio Maduros. I assume this is the burning sugar/starches in the leaf. Whatever it is, I love it. I'll sometimes just wave the cigar under my nose to catch the aroma, without taking a puff. As for the retrohale, it took me a while to figure out the mechanics. At some point, I don't remember exactly when, it just came to me. I find myself retrohaling maybe 3-5 times a smoke. I don't enjoy it as much as the simple aroma, but it does add another experience to the smoke.
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