My two cents here...a lot of these guys you're losing are past the Tyson thing. In talking to all or most of them is about open scolding, power trips, and passive agressive mod activity behind closed doors when maybe a few PMs could work things out.
This place has become a lot less fun to hang around. It seems too tightly wound and in my opinion seems to stems from a few certain people.
The reason I haven't logged out myself yet is because there's a few solid guys on here I don't have contact with outside of here and I enjoy engaging with that handful of individuals.
I'm getting pushed to that brink though.
We all know there are other cigar and pipe forums and other means of communicating.
If anyone here wants my contact info shoot me a PM...I don't know if I'll be as active in the coming days...not that I was overly active to begin with. A lot of those guys are dropping Puff and going elsewhere as well.
Anyways...my $.02 as respectfully as I could put it.
And just a side note. The panda thing has nothing to do with Tyson...it was an inside joke among a bunch of friends. All who are now friends, brothers, because of this place.
If you're talking about the mods mentioning members in the mod discussions section.
1) it's to make members aware that they have done something to bring them to the attention of the mods , we're trying to avoid suspensions. The people that were mentioned were involved in keeping the argument going when it would die down. Some directly disrespected mods. I know because it was me that was directly disrespected I bite my tongue, don't want to see people get suspended. But it takes alot.
2) we all know how PMs , as of late, devolve rapidly into an argument rather than actual discussions like it used to be.
3) Tyson was literally mentioned by name in the panda thread.
I'm not doing this to fire ya up, but I just wanted to explain my point of view. Just mine not the mod team.
I don't want to see anyone else go... period
Yunz guys are all buddies of mine, this is rough. But this is ruining the forum for an even larger group of our buddies. I've gotten enough PMs from FOGs to know it's not just me that is over this whole thing.
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