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post #11 of 23 Old 10-11-2019, 08:07 PM
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I donít have an abundance of lounges near my.
At one, young kids run the counter and I always ask and explain I like smoking cigars at a lower humidity before buying one of theirs. Never a problem.
At my go to lounge I always buy one and give a special stick or the same one Iím smoking to the owner.
Any B&M that doesnít allow this is shooting themself in the foot. These places are scraping for every penny. Imagine how many sticks they need to sell to be profitable. Losing customers to another shop is foolish.

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post #12 of 23 Old 10-11-2019, 10:02 PM
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In NY 8 months out the year its not too pleasant to smoke outside unless you enjoy freezing your fingers and having your cigar tunnel from the wind so I got a membership at the lounge I like near me. Its not cheap but I have the ability to store what ever cigars and booze I want and smoke what ever I want. To be honest if I think it will be a one cigar day i buy something from them and smoke that. If I feel like a 2 cigar day I will smoke one that I want from my stash and one of theirs. But in general they have a great selection of boutique cigars and the owner is a cool guy.

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post #13 of 23 Old 10-11-2019, 10:29 PM
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Sorry, I gotta' go against the tide here. Their shop; their rules. If they don't allow outside cigars in their lounge, regardless of whether buy another, then they don't allow outside cigars in their lounge.

I've got one like that near me. Great place. I enjoy it. I just know when I go there I'm buying what I'm smoking then and there.

Sorry, but you're wrong to get upset with them. If you don't like it, don't go there. But don't expect them to change their rules just because they don't suit you.
I'd like to know which one it is. Might have to give em a shot.

It's very rare that I take my own to smoke, so this topic really doesn't apply to me, so I'd tend to agree. The ATL area has so much competition it seems like it'd be easy to find just about any atmosphere one could desire here.
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I wouldnít go back and they are shooting themselves in the foot. One of the shops I go to will regularly give me a guest pass to sit in the private lounge and smoke after I buy some smokes. I usually spend at least $50 so I donít feel so bad when the regular see me in there. If they werenít 40 minutes away I would definitely get a membership.


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post #15 of 23 Old 10-11-2019, 11:18 PM
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I'd like to know which one it is. Might have to give em a shot.

It's very rare that I take my own to smoke, so this topic really doesn't apply to me, so I'd tend to agree. The ATL area has so much competition it seems like it'd be easy to find just about any atmosphere one could desire here.
I'm in Alpharetta and there are two in the area that I "occasionally frequent" (never mind the oxymoron). The one I had in mind was Cutter's on Windward Pky at Hwy 9. Upscale, but very friendly and relaxing at the same time. Full bar there and sometimes live music in the evening. Multiple TV's playing whatever sports are on otherwise. Big bright walk-in with a decent selection. Good for meet-ups and entertaining.

The other is the polar opposite, but equally enticing in its own way. That's Blue Havana II, further on up Hwy 9. Very homey. Smallish walk-in, packed to the gills with lots of hidden treasures, plus a lot of floor space dedicated to accessories outside the humidor. No bar - in fact, about the most you'll get for refreshments is a cup of coffee with powdered creamer for a buck from the Keurig machine. Lounge is classic sit-n-smoke in leather chairs while you read or surf the Internet, with the owner's desk perched in the corner overseeing the action and looking up every once-in-a-while to comment on the news feed running silently on the sole TV most of the time. Perfect when you just want peace and quiet.

Both keep their cigars in ready-to-smoke condition and neither allow outside cigars. Can't blame 'em. If I want to smoke my own cigars I can do that at home, which I do most of the time.
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My thoughts are that a business owner has the right to set his own policies. As a consumer you have rights to choose what lounge to frequent, it’s called living in America!
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post #17 of 23 Old 10-12-2019, 12:09 AM
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I'm in Alpharetta and there are two in the area that I "occasionally frequent" (never mind the oxymoron). The one I had in mind was Cutter's on Windward Pky at Hwy 9. Upscale, but very friendly and relaxing at the same time. Full bar there and sometimes live music in the evening. Multiple TV's playing whatever sports are on otherwise. Big bright walk-in with a decent selection. Good for meet-ups and entertaining.

The other is the polar opposite, but equally enticing in its own way. That's Blue Havana II, further on up Hwy 9. Very homey. Smallish walk-in, packed to the gills with lots of hidden treasures, plus a lot of floor space dedicated to accessories outside the humidor. No bar - in fact, about the most you'll get for refreshments is a cup of coffee with powdered creamer for a buck from the Keurig machine. Lounge is classic sit-n-smoke in leather chairs while you read or surf the Internet, with the owner's desk perched in the corner overseeing the action and looking up every once-in-a-while to comment on the news feed running silently on the sole TV most of the time. Perfect when you just want peace and quiet.

Both keep their cigars in ready-to-smoke condition and neither allow outside cigars. Can't blame 'em. If I want to smoke my own cigars I can do that at home, which I do most of the time.
Nice, thanks. I'll have to check em out, next time I'm over that way. Thread hijack ovah...
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I want to get the community's opinion on this to see if I'm being an unreasonable asshole.

I went to my local B&M / lounge for an afternoon smoke today and brought along one of the CAO Amazon Basin that I purchased from one of the members here because I've been jonesing to smoke one.

Now I'm not that douche bag that brings their own to a lounge and expects to smoke it there without compensating the shop in some way, so today I selected a $17 cigar from their humidor and began the transaction at the counter. I've done this several times here as well as different shops and it's never been an issue.

When the counter guy found out that I wasn't planning on smoking the $17 cigar I was in the process of buying, he informed me that the shop was under new management and that only cigars purchased on premises were to be smoked there. I promptly put the cigar that I was buying back in the humidor and told the counter guy to have a nice day.

I believe that business owners should be allowed to run their business however they see fit and I totally understand if they want to limit people taking advantage of the lounge by charging a cutting fee or putting a minimum purchase amount if you want to smoke a stick that you brought with you. But to ban outside sticks is completely asinine in my mind.

If that's how they want to do business then that fine, I'll just vote with my dollars. I think if I'm buying a $17 Oliva V Melanio Maduro which is insanely marked up, then I should have the right to smoke whatever I want. I dont mind paying the mark up for the use of the lounge but shop owners aren't going to tell me what I can and can't smoke while keeping me as a paying customer.

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I'm wondering if the "new management" (which could be everything from an employed General Manager to full on new owners) simply doesn't really understand the cigar, and more specifically, the aficionado industry. There's merit to the idea that you don't want to smoke at the RH they store at. But someone who isn't an aficionado wouldn't know this and wouldn't understand it. Someone who isn't an aficionado would also make blanket rules like what you ran into.

That being said, agreed that it's their shop & lounge, so it's their rules. It's also in your purview to not spend your money there. Your best bet, at this point, is to go elsewhere. If you really liked this particular place, you could always try getting in touch with the new manager / owner and see if you can explain / educate. Worth a try I suppose.
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I'm wondering if the "new management" (which could be everything from an employed General Manager to full on new owners) simply doesn't really understand the cigar, and more specifically, the aficionado industry. There's merit to the idea that you don't want to smoke at the RH they store at. But someone who isn't an aficionado wouldn't know this and wouldn't understand it. Someone who isn't an aficionado would also make blanket rules like what you ran into.



That being said, agreed that it's their shop & lounge, so it's their rules. It's also in your purview to not spend your money there. Your best bet, at this point, is to go elsewhere. If you really liked this particular place, you could always try getting in touch with the new manager / owner and see if you can explain / educate. Worth a try I suppose.
Yep it's full on new owners. No worries though... not particularly attached to the place. They were just convenient because they are only 5 min from my house. V

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post #20 of 23 Old 10-12-2019, 06:55 PM
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My thoughts are that a business owner has the right to set his own policies. As a consumer you have rights to choose what lounge to frequent, itís called living in America!
Hmmm....that's enough sense to make a Dollar!

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