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Boxes with no Date Code?!?!

Anyone here ever get a box with no date code, yet all the other details line up...including the Habanos S.A. UPC checker? The source is well known and highly reputable.

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Mmm... no.
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I started buying CC boxes back in ‘98 and after all this time.....this is a first for me. I was just hoping someone else had seen this before, so I can give my OCD a rest.

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I started buying CC boxes back in ‘98 and after all this time.....this is a first for me. I was just hoping someone else had seen this before, so I can give my OCD a rest.
Maybe someone just got lazy. If all the other info lines up, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Maybe someone just got lazy. If all the other info lines up, I wouldn't worry about it.


Ahhhh, yes. The sane and rational approach. I hear that normal people use this approach often. Us OCD folks on the other hand; fret, pace, pull out hair, find something to rearrange, and all the while ponder why this damned world isn’t perfect. Lol
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Mmm... no.
I must much to your dismay i would imagine.
Echo Jacks response.
NO!
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Only time I've not seen box codes is on the individual tins when buying a 5x5 deal. I've got a couple tins of HUHC from '08 that aren't marked, though I imagine the original packaging containing the lot would have had the codes.

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Here are a box of fakes i stumbled upon some time back.
You will notice no date code.
Lots of other stickers though.
My advice to you, since you have said he is a reputable vendor.
Send them back its really just that simple.
Reputable vendors not only guarantee delivery.
They also guarantee your complete satisfaction.
Good Luck.
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Here are a box of fakes i stumbled upon some time back.
You will notice no date code.
Lots of other stickers though.
My advice to you, since you have said he is a reputable vendor.
Send them back its really just that simple.
Reputable vendors not only guarantee delivery.
They also guarantee your complete satisfaction.
Good Luck.
Man those got around! Excellent example Tony. You can even still find them on some fake vendor sites today. But then, that's a dead giveaway that they're selling fakes. And "fakes" is the right word; they don't even rate being called "counterfeits".

Interestingly, if those were real they would be an example of an instance where there likely wouldn't be a date code on the wooden box because it would have been stamped on the cardboard outer box instead (I've seen it said that they sometimes stamp both, but I've never seen it myself). And that's where all the stickers and seals would be too, on the outer packaging not the wooden inner! There are also some regular production items where the wooden box is packaged in an outer cardboard box with the date stamp, stickers, and seals on it, and any real vendor will ship them that way.

And that's a good lead-in to telling folks how to know if the vendor site they stumbled across is selling fakes. Packaging matters, and counterfeiters are notorious for getting it wrong. Another tip-off is items that have long-since been discontinued. The first thing I look for are Partagas Coronas. Seems nearly every fake vendor lists them as though they're still in current production even though they were discontinued in 2006. Not that I was going to buy anything from some random site anyway, but I do kinda' enjoy shaking my head and laughing at how transparent they are letting you know their cigars are all fakes!
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Only time I've not seen box codes is on the individual tins when buying a 5x5 deal. I've got a couple tins of HUHC from '08 that aren't marked, though I imagine the original packaging containing the lot would have had the codes.
Yep, date code would be under the flap of the outer sleeve containing all five tins. Same goes for cardboard packs. One catch, though. HUHC's weren't launched until 2011, and the 5x5 tins didn't come out until 2012.

Another example of unusual date placement is with Vegueros tins of 16. The date stamp is on the bottom of the bundle inside the tin. This also applies to JLP's and Quinteros that come as a bundle inside a chipboard box.
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